Trump is abruptly threatening to veto the spending bill and force a government shutdown over the bor

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    CD6D2306-1D87-43B1-A800-299441C8D8E9.jpeg https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-government-shutdown-veto-bill-mexico-border-wall-2018-12


    Events are moving too fast for me to keep up with

    I can only hope this leads to $5 bil for the wall or a government shutdown
     
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    Wonder if he’ll go on his Mar-A-Logo Christmas trip while the government is shutdown? My money is on yes.
     
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    Apparently he had some members of the Freedom Caucus over for a noon time meeting and of course they are telling him to veto any bill to continue funding the government, even if it's just a CR until February. With Trump, he's weak so he usually listens to the last person that tells him what to do - so I expect ole Mitch to be giving him a call at about the same time the bill is put on his desk for signing......

    The reality and optics of a veto right now are bad, really bad for Trump......and Mitch will tell him so.
     
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    Trump will be committing political suicide if he gets nothing for the wall
     
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    It’ll be worse if he proves he can’t make a deal. Didn’t he write a book on that?
     
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    I think democrats have proven they dont want to make a deal

    And spineless republican swamp creatures in congress are caught in the middle

    They just want to take the easiest way out whatever that is

    there are many twists and turns remaining in this story

    And trump is under enormous pressure to cave

    But if he does he is finished politically
     
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    He’s likely finished either way. Want to bet a dollar donation to PF he doesn’t get the GOP nomination?
     
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    I dont make silly bets over things I cant possibly know

    Though I am pretty sure that he will lose his base if he does not lay it all on the line for the wall
     
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    He could keep his base and it wouldn’t be enough. Independents won’t be fooled again.
     
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    If so then why not roll the dice and go for broke?

    Veto the bill and see what happens

    Congress can then try to override the veto
     
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    Government Shut Down :omg:

    What does it mean.

    Not like the military is without funding.

    Like all those sycophants surrounding various congressmen go without a pay check.
    And some of them be family.
    Oh the Suffering of the Swamp rats.


    Bravo Trump :applause:

    Drain the swamp
    And let's see some of them without a pay check
    make it in the "real world".
     
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    Trump has done ok

    Its congress that has failed to do its job

    There is no reason for independent trump voters to reject him unless they enjoy being manipulated by the lib media and the Deep State
     
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    As it will harm the nation and waste money I hope he doesn’t, but you’re right in that he likely doesn’t have a dog in the fight either way.
     
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    Not defending the southern border from the shoeless migrant invasion is hurting the country more

    Trump does have a dog in the fight because he wants the wall

    I dont think he came to washington to be a meek go along to get along caretaker president
     
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    Trump never wanted a real wall. His supporters heads are exploding by the ease Mr. Trump seemed to have been willing to just walk away from his claim of shutting down the government for 5 billion.

    Its Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and Laura Inghram...and his Fox and Friends that want Trump to hold fast on the wall

    Congress is gone.

    If Trump pulls a Cruz...he's going to look like an even bigger fool not signing the bill.


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    COLUMBIA, S.C. - The South Carolina Republican Party could decide next summer to pass on holding the party's 2020 primary election - a move that is not unprecedented - to help President Donald Trump's re-election bid.

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    Trump is in real trouble.
     
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    His base wants the wall. He doesn’t give a rats ass about it because he doesn’t live in the real world.
     
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    So far trump is wisely holding out for what his base wants

    Not many spineless republican swamp rats in washington have ever been willing to stick their necks out for the voters who elected them
     
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    He just doesn’t want to get booed at rallies. He loves that attention. I’m sure he can’t wait for the next election cycle to start. All this actual presidential work is probably boring as all get-out.
     
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    Remember when people used to say Trump could stand on 5th Ave and shoot someone and his base would never leave him????

    Now we found the someone Trump could not shoot.


    The Border Wall.

    Trump shot the border wall and his sycophants are going apoplectic...
     
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    Who does?

    But what would probably happen is that no one will show up

    Then he would be as lonely as hillary and bill
     
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    Who does, what?

    Are you asking who I was talking about? The rest of your post implies you understood.

    I see you brought up Hillary. You must be under the impression that I like her. That’s silly of you.
     
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    He didn't write any book. The 'Art of The Deal' was written by someone else who has said that Trump isn't what he says he is, and he has already shown that he knows nothing about negotiation. He knows how to threaten and denigrate which serves to separate.
     
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    Or Marthas vineyard?
     
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    Sure. I guess he could go there as well.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Shut 'er down...

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