Trump Records Birthday Video for Killed Capitol Rioter Ashli Babbitt

Right on, Mia.
Truer words were never spoken.

 

A voice of reason...!!! How wonderful..

 

Then exactly what were they doing in such a position? Was their job to keep unruly tourists between the velvet ropes the maximum amount of confrontation they were trained to deal with?

Once again, the fact that these people chose suicide does not mean the event caused the suicide. If that was the cause based on your claim, then why are there members of the Capitol Police who were present that have not committed suicide? It is intrinsic to the individual.

Just as a person is responsible for their individual response to anything... good, bad and ugly, it is their choice to respond in a certain manner.

 

Their family watched them wither away after 1/6.

What don't you understand?

Are you going to contradict the testimony of the people who lived with the deceased every day?

 

So their inability to cope with an event is the event's fault, and absolutely nothing to do with the person at all. Really?

I'll repeat myself. Then why haven't the rest of the Capitol Police present that day committed suicide?

 

If there had only been one suicide, you might have an argument.

But there were four.

So the event was particularly traumatic even for police officers.

Are you going to try to minimize this riot again?

Your argument is stupid and contemptuous.

Wars would not be so serious since a minority of soldiers commit suicide after having been in combat....

Reasoning totally disconnected from reality.

 

Yes, it was a riot, perpetrated by idiots. I have never 'minimized' it, so those are your words, not mine. Come on, you can do better then 'stupid' and contemptuous of who? I have already stated that some people deal with events differently then others. That doesn't make one person better or worse then another. But it IS an individual response.

Where else in this country were riots happening in 2020 and 2021? Did those police officers commit suicide?

 

It's very likely.

There are 230 police officers who commit suicide every year.

 

She was unarmed, that’s kind of what democrats run on right? If they’re unarmed they can act however they want because you should be able to taze them or use non lethal? If this is justified as defense for the senators then I’m sure any other murder during a riot is justified as well.

 

You're right, that does sound lame.
Yet everyday I see posts with the exact same lame tenor.

 

Really, who posted their embarrassment, or are you just making up another claim as per usual that you will never back up?
No answer needed as past history provides such answer.
Making up fake excuses doesn't help your cause. The only ones around here that are showing their cult nature is the left posting thousands of Trump threads over and over.

Just an FYI, Trump hasn't been president for 10 months now and has no power. But when you find a positive Biden thread, let us all know.

 

More fake claims to support the lefts cultist nature of their own Trumpian worship.

1, You have no idea, news, or factual claims of any civil war. You just made that up
2. You have no idea, news, or factual claims of Trump running. You just made that up
3. Even if he did run and win, he wouldn't be an American Putin.
4. And there is no indication of any such peril since 1861

So you can pretend anything you want but making up fake claims as to what you think the end of the world looks like because of Trump only shows your own factual shortcomings.

But if you can't live a single day without Trump and your pretend patriotic duty to save the world from your pretend civil war, and your pretend greatest peril since 1861 (LOL) you should continue your quest. It is entertaining to see just how far someone will go to support their never ending Trumpian worship.

 

After the 1/6 riot and Trump continuing to push the Big Lie, it's clear that if he wins in 2024, the US will become an authoritarian regime.

 

While I agree, Obama opened that door, never to be shut again I'm afraid. Its now the example. Just like impeachments. If Republicans win the house and senate next year, how much would you wanna bet they impeach Biden? Its gone overboard and its going to be an ongoing thing from now on.

 

Heres your first hint, Trump would still be president if he was an authoritarian and could get away with it.
Didn't think of that huh.
Did you think all of a sudden the US Congress and Senate would fall by the way side with no power? How does this work for you> How do you explain how the US becomes authoritarian over an elected president? Or is Trump so deeply rooted in your thoughts, you just gave way to any other fact out there in regards to the US elected government? You actually think the ENTIRE government would fall and we would all be ruled in a communist state?

Trump would be a authoritarian, extreme single power over all? Here to stay for 20 years? I bet you don't even realize just how ridiculous that notion is?
As for your Big Lie propaganda, what was it called when Hillary did it? I think they called it a book. lol

 

Obama's interventions were not even CLOSE to what Trump is doing. He spoke out occasionally about what he thought were particularly egregious 'offences'.

 

I note that you keep avoiding the statistics. That is as clear evidence as you could want that there is a correlation between the events and the suicides. I absolutely accept (and already have on this thread) that the riot was likely not the only cause for the suicides, but to say it was not a cause at all while ignoring clear statistical evidence to the contrary, is an indefensible position.

"What were they doing in that position?" You already answered this yourself really - the military experience a great deal more stress than the capitol police, who presumably had very rarely, if ever, experienced this level of violence. You can train all you want, but that can't really prepare you what it's like to be attacked by a mob. That's not the officers' failing - it's the fault of the mob.

Your question "Why didn't they all commit suicide?" prompts a very obvious response - are you unaware that people are different from each other? We respond differently to events. Some things that would traumatise you might affect me less, and vice versa. You seem to be saying (correct me if I'm wrong), "If they couldn't deal with the situation that's because they were weak." In which case, you would presumably have to consider the suicide of rape victims to be down to their personal weakness and nothing to do with the trauma of being raped. Surely that would be a grotesque position.

 

My impression is that US politics has long been hyper-partisan. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden was impeached in this situation, but then Republicans would need a good enough reason to do it in order not to alienate independents and their own moderate supporters

 

You must be new around here! lol
This is the Capital of indefensible positions!
Sort of joking, but there's a lot of bs here. I wish I owned a farm, as there would be enough fertilizer to go around.

 

I'm not 'avoiding' anything. When someone who is not emotionally/psychologically prepared to deal with a possible event of their job, there are multiple possible reactions. To take such a drastic step as suicide there had to be underlying circumstances that doesn't exist in all the participants. That doesn't make anyone 'weak'. Everyone has their own make up of tolerance and how to deal with things.

The riot may have served as a final push for whatever was previously going on in their lives, but for someone who had no underlying issues, well, the answer to that is then all of the Capitol Police would be committing suicide. They aren't.

As your attempt to equate rape and the stupidity at the Capitol, isn't even worth discussing.

 

Partisan politics is bad, but honestly I think Biden is savvy enough to avoid impeachment. Also, Kamala Harris is a pretty good deterrent.

 

I hope not. If you think Biden is inept, consider Harris attempting to run the country....

 

Maybe Biden is a little wiser than some people think!
Honestly, I think Biden is a pretty wise man. Unfortunately, his best years were at least 10 years ago.

 

Again, what is with "all of the Capitol Police"? I find it difficult to believe that you genuinely don't realise people are different from each other. But that you refuse to discuss the statistics leads me to believe you have your position and you're not going to consider anything which challenges it. The rape analogy, by the way, is precise - people reacting to traumatic events inflicted on them by others by killing themselves.