Trump revealed highly classified information to Russians in meeting, officials say Pt 2

Had that been Hillary the right wingers would be calling for her impeachment and the controlled right wing media would be broadcasting hate about her 24 hours a day.

 

Those are not my words.

 

When Obama wanted to share intelligence with Russia, the Left and the Press (but I repeat myself) applauded. June, 2016: U.S. offers to share Syria intelligence on terrorists with Russia.

 

Who exactly said that?

 

So you claim that Tass was in the room during the meeting where ISIS plots to use bombs to bring down planes carrying innocent civilians was discussed ?? Come'on man - that's deranged.

 

The WaPo story would never have been published.

 

Just today I was on a city bus and saw a car with a sticker from a right winger which said "Hillary lied, 4 Americans died". Obviously the deluded driver ignored the fact that Bush lied and over 4,000 American soldiers died.

Double standards, much?

 

Yes, the Sharyl Attkisson substitution exercise is very revealing.

 

Bush 43 did not lie. And Obama gave away the victory that those American heroes won.

 

I'm sure you have proof Bush lied....don't you?

 

But that was subject to certain conditions. Since Russia did not accede, it was not done.

By contrast Donald Dump gave away the store.

Double standards, much??

 

Well, it's only been 15 years since the search started for those nebulous WMD so mebbe you may have a point that he did not lie.

 

No, not discounting McMaster's testimony whatsoever. McMaster parses his words so his statements are true, but they don't necessarily tell the WHOLE truth.

I'm not sure you want to hold onto the argument that either Trump didn't pay attention to his briefings, or his staff doesn't brief him completely, so revealing things he did know about classified information to Russians is OK.

 

No. Not really.

• EXPOSURE OF NSA ABILITY TO ACCESS TERRORIST COMPUTERS NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.

What about The New York Times story in 2014 revealing that the National Security Agency had developed the capability to access computers that are not connected to the Internet?

According to the Times, the NSA uses “a covert channel of radio waves that can be transmitted from tiny circuit boards and USB cards inserted surreptitiously into . . . computers” or in some cases “a briefcase-size relay station that intelligence agencies can set up miles away from the target.” The Times reported that, “There is no evidence that the NSA has implanted its software or used its radio frequency technology inside the United States.” And the NSA confirmed that the “NSA’s activities are focused and specifically deployed against — and only against — valid foreign intelligence targets.”

So the program posed precisely zero threat to American civil liberties. Publishing it was nothing more than engaging in “espionage porn.” But the Times ran it anyway. Where was the concern for national security then?

These are just Marc’s first two example. He offers five more you can find at the link above.

And yet the media wonder why so many Americans hate them?

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/05/profiles-in-media-hypocrisy.php

 

Trump was said to have revealed the data in a meeting, not via computer access.

 

All I'm claiming is what I have read… that no American journalists were allowed into the meeting, but one journalist/photographer from TASS was. You asked for a link. I linked it. Did you read the link? It named him.

No where did it say the room was cleared, but if you know of a source that says that, please link it. I'd be interested to know too.

 

I never said Trump told the Russians it came from Israel. What I said was… it was published that Trump told the name of the city where the intel came from, and that the Russians would be easily able to reverse engineer the information to figure out the source.

If you think Russia is fighting ISIS, you need to research it. Russia was keeping Assad in power, not fighting ISIS.

 

Try a little harder. I pointed out that Russia is not sharing intelligence with ISIS. If ISIS now knows this information, its not because Trump mentioned something in a private meeting, its because the Press, that has a vendetta against Trump, because he beat Hillary, published this leaked information.

And this grave concern over national intelligence leaks is a little hard to swallow, since it is they that is publishing it!

Did they wail in anguish over this?

• EXPOSURE OF SAUDI DOUBLE AGENT IN YEMEN.

The Obama administration’s shameful exposure of the role of a double agent recruited in London by British intelligence in breaking up a new underwear bomb plot in Yemen? The Guardian reported at the time:

Detailed leaks of operational information about the foiled underwear bomb plot are causing growing anger in the US intelligence community, with former agents blaming the Obama administration for undermining national security and compromising the British services, MI6 and MI5.

The Guardian has learned from Saudi sources that the agent was not a Saudi national as was widely reported, but a Yemeni. He was born in Saudi Arabia, in the port city of Jeddah, and then studied and worked in the UK, where he acquired a British passport.

Mike Scheur, the former head of the CIA’s Bin Laden unit, said the leaking about the nuts and bolts of British involvement was despicable and would make a repeat of the operation difficult.

https://www.aei.org/publication/the-media-hypocrisy-over-trumps-intelligence-leak/

 

With all due respect, you don't know what Russia is doing intelligence wise. If we knew what Russia was doing, we would have stopped the hacks, propaganda, trolls, bots, and social media targeting they hit us with. The problem is not so much that Russia might share with ISIS. The problem is Russia might share with their ally Iran… when the intel came to us from Israel. Get it now?

 

Well, according to Macmasters, nothing that was not already publicly known was discussed, so why not allow Tass into the meeting

 

I don't know. You're outrage seems just a bit selective:

• EXPOSURE OF SPECIAL OPERATIONS ACTIVITIES AGAINST AL-QAEDA IN AFRICA.

On June 13, 2012, the Washington Post reported: “The US military is expanding its secret intelligence operations across Africa, establishing a network of small air bases to spy on terrorist hideouts from the fringes of the Sahara to jungle terrain along the equator, according to documents and people involved in the project.” The article exposed that, “Under a classified surveillance program code-named Creek Sand, dozens of US personnel and contractors have come to Burkina Faso in recent years to establish a small air base on the military side of the international airport.” The Burkina Faso foreign minister, caught by surprise by the leak, is quoted as pleading, “This cooperation should be very, very discreet. We should not show to al-Qaeda that we are now working with the Americans.

Too late.

The list of leaks and liaison partners exposed during the Obama years just goes on and on and on.

None of this excuses Trump’s accidentally sharing top-secret intelligence with Russian officials. But it takes real chutzpah for the media to express outrage over his apparently inadvertent disclosure of classified information – or to feign concern over the effect his actions might have on cooperation by our intelligence partners in the fight against terror – when they regularly published often intentional leaks from Obama administration that exposed sources and methods and endangered our national security.

Trump may have stumbled in his meeting with the Russians, but he has a long way to go before he does the kind of damage that President Obama and his team of intelligence sieves did – with the help of The New York Times and other news outlets now expressing feigned outrage.

https://www.aei.org/publication/the-media-hypocrisy-over-trumps-intelligence-leak/

 

McMaster, Powell, Tillerson, and Trump would not have discussed ISIS intelligence with any reporter in the room. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

 

McMaster, Powell, Tillerson, and Trump would not have discussed ISIS intelligence with any reporter in the room. To suggest otherwise is strong evidence of TDS.

 

I'm not trying to excuse what is inexcusable by comparing Trump's stupidity to any other president's stupid decisions. What Trump did was bad. He doesn't get a pass because Obama may have done something bad. This is "whataboutism" and it is part of Russian active measures. Do not excuse Trump's behavior. He does what he wants and something has to finally get through his thick skull, so he stops the impulsiveness that puts America's security in jeopardy. He doesn't listen to his advisors or anyone else. Perhaps if he is humiliated enough, he'll stop and think before he speaks, next time. If not, he has to go. This isn't about him. This is about the country.

 

And you believe them completely… without a single doubt? Do you believe their story despite what you have witnessed when Spicer, Nunes, Sanders, Pence and others have been sent out to cover Trump's whims before and ended up with egg on their faces?

Trump lies. He lies when the truth would serve him better. How you can believe him, or any of his surrogates, is beyond me. You haven't seen Pence today. He's still mad he was hung out to dry over the Comey firing. He was sent out, played the dutiful role and said what he was told… that Comey was fired because the AG and Acting AG recommended it. The next day, Trump threw him under the bus. Don't pretend Trump and surrogates don't lie. They are proven liars.