Trump: 'Rocket Man' Kim Jong Un is on a 'suicide mission'.....

And after the north invaded, US policy instantly became the destruction of the communist regime by force.

Which was the reason my 1950 was followed by the "ish" suffix.

 

It's true that we don't want a war with China. Just saying that it's no less true that they want no part in a war with us.

 

1950 ish or 1952 are not the same thing

I agree that after the successful Inchon landing (look it up if you dont know) the US was going to drive all the way across north korea

Can you blame them?

If china really does not want a war in korea they should take steps to put a muzzle on their attack dog

Because if they dont I think trump will

 

They do not. But understand communist governments. They may fear the failure of a fellow communist government more than war, because it would be a blow to the legitimacy of their own regime.

 

The US did not want to wipe China off the map back then. Oh and not after helping them with the Japanese.

Do you have a link to these comments of his, wherein he indicated that China has changed its stance?

 

Again, the issue isn't whether or not China wants a war. The issue is does China want a war less than it wants the failure of another communist system.

I believe all communist systems are destined to fail miserably. We better hope that happens in China or NK before Kim can put nukes on missiles. If Kim is successful, he knows that the 30kish US troops under the threat of a nuclear strike will be an unnacceptable situation for the US. He also knows that they will remain largely unprotected from his nukes, because the missile defense systems that will be necessary to protect those 30kish US troops in that situation would be an act of war toward China, and would be unacceptable to them. If Kim gets nukes on missiles, the US will be forced to withdraw its troops.

 

I'm talking about the UN comments that the US will be forced to destroy NK. We did this dance; we decided long ago that NK had forced us to destroy them and China stopped it. Trump is acting as if the situation has changed and I don't feel it has.

 

What does he mean - that his Great Leader would start a nuke war just because someone called him a daft name? Get rid of him, and do it now because he's obviously deranged enough to carry it out.

 

There is more to it. Consider this. Read through it. An interesting angle. It appears that Kim eradicated all pro-Chinese North Korean officials, their families included.

North Korea is the Pentagon vassal state

By F. William engdahl
1 November 2016

If it weren’t for the fact that he is absolute dictator of a country with a formidable army and nuclear missile technology, North Korean President Kim Jong Un, the 290 pound, 32 year-old ruler would be a clown figure. Unfortunately for world peace, Kim Jong Un, while he is playing games with his rockets and threats of war, is serving the long-term interests of the USA, especially the military industrial complex, the Pentagon and State Department, whose priority increasingly is to make an Asia Pivot of military power projection to contain and isolate the Peoples’ Republic of China as well as Russia

In the end of the 1990’s I had the chance occasion to have a chat with the late James R. Lilley. Lilley was at the Davos World Economic Forum and by chance had sat at my dinner table together with a delegation from the China Peoples’ Liberation Army. As I was the only westerner at the table he struck up a conversation, and as he saw I was more than conversant in global politics, he began talking, perhaps more than he should have with one he did not know.

James R. Lilley was no outsider. A member, together with his close friend, George H.W. Bush, of the infamous Yale University Skull & Bones secret society, Lilley served some three decades at the CIA along with Bush. Both Lilley and Bush were US Ambassadors to China.

Lilley’s term in Beijing coincided with the May-June 1989 Tiananmen Square student protests. I have reason to believe he played the key US role in orchestrating that clash between thousands of protesting students and the Chinese government as one of Washington’s early Color Revolution attempts to destabilize communist China simultaneously with the CIA’s role in destabilizing the Soviet Union...

http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO1Nov2016.php

 

Kim has some nukes now and that has not forced the US to withdraw our troops

But threatening the US with nukes is a different issue

Should we disband our military in the US entirely if Kim demands it?

 

I think he intends to force a withdrawal of US troops from the peninsula. I'm not totally sure about our missile defense capabilities, but I don't believe US leadership would risk 30k US troops so close to a belligerent nuclear power. Attacking the US would be suicidal.

 

Giving in to a two bit dictator is a mistake.

P.S. There is no such thing as a "global citizen".

 

I'm not saying give in. I am saying US leadership needs to be much clearer about its intentions than it was in the 1950's. When Trump says that he means to prevent Kim from getting nukes on rockets, he needs to tell China we will fight you if you try and stop us like last time. Spouting this "thank you China, I appreciate you China" meme while simultaneously saying "we will destroy you North Korea" makes no sense. It's time to get real; it's China's fault we couldn't take out Kim's grandad, it's China's fault we have to send our people to that peninsula for 70 years, and it's China's fault a maniac is about to place nukes on missiles. That would be real talk.

My state and federal citizenship exist simultaneously but separately. As do my global and US citizenship.

 

China didn't stop it.....we stopped it ourselves. You must have forgot China took massive casualties.

 

So we should be telling China that we are prepared to resume. Threatening NK is pointless if they don't see threats to China. Kim is well aware of this, and it only makes us look weak.

 

N Korea's Ho speaks out. Now that's funny.....a Ho talking ****. Trump can play with that and should.



North Korea's Foreign Minister: Trump's Latest Threat 'A Declaration of War'.....


North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho said President Trump’s latest threat against their country was “a declaration of war.”

Ri Yong Ho said Trump’s latest remarks increase the regime’s determination to strike the U.S. mainland.

"Due to his lacking of basic common knowledge and proper sentiment, he tried to insult the supreme dignity of my country by referring it to a rocket," he said. "By doing so however, he committed an irreversible mistake of making our rocket's visit to the entire U.S. mainland inevitable all the more."

The foreign minister also tried to claim that the use of nuclear weapons wasn’t the country’s first option.

"The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a responsible nuclear weapons state," he said. "We will take preventative measures by merciless preemptive action unless the U.S. and its vessel forces show any sign of operating a decapitating operation on our headquarters or military attack against our country. However, we do not have any intention at all to use or threaten to use nuclear weapons against the countries that do not join in the U.S. military actions against the DPRK.".....snip~

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahb...p-comments-were-a-declaration-of-war-n2386182

 

Uhm.....we have told China repeatedly. We are not going to allow Lil Kim to put a nuke on an ICBM. Even said to them after they made their official statement.

 

NK's last statement said they will inevitably strike the U.S. mainland with a nuke.

Does that justify a pre-emptive attack by the U.S.?

 

Whats funny is we sent Bombers and fighters up their coast, and they didn't even know we were there.

 

Nah, the US should slap NK around and tell China to lump it.

There is no global citizenry. This is basically a pipe dream by Star Trek fans who want to be a member of the Trek....

 

I must not be getting the story straight, because what I read of reports coming out of NK is a virtually constant threat TO the US, not FROM the US.

The list of criminal actions the NK carries on is massive, including counterfeiting hundred of millions in US currency.

He has said that an attack on the US by NK is virtually inevitable. The atrocities, crime and utter ruthless abuse of this dictator is hardly a different opinion.

Perhaps you are getting your news from N Korean public television news?? Or some far left liberals poop sheet?

 

So would attacking our 30K troops in s Korea

But liberals are telling me we should withdraw those troops because kim will commit suicide?

 

If they did not know that they were there then that was a waste of time and money, or more likely, they didn't actually cross into NK airspace and so no fuss was made as bombers and fighters regularly fly around there anyway. It's not exactly easy to hide a squadron of planes! So more than likely, either your claim or that news was fake

 

They flew up the Coast. Oh and no it wasn't a waste of time and money. As N Korea woke up to find out that we flew up their Coast. Its so much better coming from others and showing just how inadequate Lil Kim and his crew actually are.

Kind of like the left. Made as inadequate.

 

Trump drew his red line and Kim crossed it over and over, Trump bluffed like Obama did and it backfired on him just like it did Obama

sometimes when you bluff you get called on it.... Trump is learning that being President is complicated