Trump: 'Rocket Man' Kim Jong Un is on a 'suicide mission'.....

I am not always sure who is us and who isn't

On the Internet Americans get a lot of bad advice from foreigners

 

You seem to only hear what you want to hear? NK has said that would nuke us if we invaded or attacked them. So, no threat unless we do that. Pretty simple to understand. He is trying to keep our war mongering arses from doing to them what we have done in the ME. Now, get it? And yet some of do not notice the caveat. Why is this? Cognitive dissonance? Ignorance? Stupdity? Or, our ears simply do not work?

I agree with Ron Paul, not a leftist. I agree with the founding fathers. Not a leftist.

 

I got advice from men like, Gen. Smedley Butler, the highest decorated Marine. Men like Ron Paul. Men like our Founding Fathers. While your team get advice from people who are war mongers in the interests of our elites who increase their wealth, using the blood of our poor in the military.

Don't want NK to use a nuke? Then make sure we do not do there, what we did in the ME. We would not be rattling sabers with russia or china, in this manner. Threatening them, because they have nukes to keep us from attacking them.

NK have the right to defend herself from my nation. Every nation has that right. They are not threatening to nuke us, unless we attack them. How more simple could that be? You guys are just insane is all. Or so entitled you think only we have rights in regards to security. The war mongering arrogance is just astounding. And crazy.

 

what part of flying missiles over our allies was difficult?

 

NK showing their missile capability is nothing more than showing us, what they can do...so to remind us to keep our war mongering arses out of their nation. Nothing unreasonable about it, although it is inflammatory. Just as we are with those military invasion exercises we have done off their coast for decades. Rattling sabers.

After what we have done in the ME, NK has every right to be paranoid. It is rational, reasonable for them to do so. And yet we call them crazy? Newspeak, post 1984 crap.

The rational thing to do is for us to get together with russia and china, and draw up an agreement, which would give NK security. But we will not do that. For we prefer the status quo, or even more presence in that part of the world. With china being the target. Thing is, it was the decision of our gov't to enrich and turn china into the greatest economic force in the world, enabling our natural enemy, to become what she is set to be. And this was done to enrich our elites. You cannot make this crap up, due to the utter absurdity of it all.

 

President Trump is now saying what we all knew in the first place...that talking to North Korea is a waste of time:

http://news.sky.com/story/amp/trump-negotiating-with-north-korea-a-waste-of-time-11063214

 

Sorry but showing their missile capability is what you call flying missiles over our allies? and you think thats reasonable? I stopped reading right there. Sorry I dont do nutter and thats one of the top 5 dumbest statements I have ever seen on here.

 

You stopped reading, right there? No surprise sir. You do not want to listen to logic and reason, so you can remain irrational and unreasonable. A closed mind can never exhibit any objectivity.

Just in case you keep reading....shooting a missile over japan, to show the US that you have the ability to reach them, is exactly what NK wanted to do. For remember, the caveat on NK launching a nuke against us, our allies, requires that we attack them, invade them, as we did in the ME, to sovereign nations, to remove their leader. NK wants to make sure we know what they can do, if we begin invading other nations again, them in particular. Completely rational and not crazy. If people cannot see this, then IMO, brains are affected with something which takes away objectivity, rationality and reason. Which seems to be rather common today. But not on my side, Ron Paul's side or the side of the founders who wanted no foreign entanglements. And boy are we entangled with NK, and have been since the shooting stopped when the active war was ceased. And boy have our actions created fear in the nations we do not like. I think the US is the most feared nation in the world. For we have become irresponsible, arrogant, in our perpetual war for perpetual peace. If we keep going, we will exceed the deaths in ww2, in our war mongering.

NK is reacting against this war mongering. And now they may have the tool to keep our arses out of their nation. It could be that if NK got security, and this could not be used by their leader to keep their people in fear, those same people just might eventually get tired of the dictatorship and the starving they suffer. But we will probably never know. For we will never stop our threats. But IMO, if we invade and get nukes exploding in america, NK told us what they would do ,and the fault lies with the arrogance and insanity in DC. We have a choice, but we do not want that choice...which is to leave them alone. Stop creating paranoia in NK.

I doubt those neocon mad men in DC give a **** about americans dying in detonated nukes. Hell, they no longer represent the People anyways. And they have bunkers, underground cities with plenty of supplies for them to live. It will just be people like you and I who will be dead.

 

And once again, Trump opens his biggest twitter mouth and embarrasses Tillerson and America

 

Do you know something we don't know about how the direct talks are going with North Korea?

 

So when has NK moved against SK or Japan. Oh, they have not done that.

Iraq is a victim of america. Libya is a victim. And syria might end up being such a victim. And you wonder why NK fears us? LOL

Radicalized? When is using rationality and common sense radical? Oh, but indeed it is, today. Just like speaking the truth is a revolutionary act these days.
So, one more time, although it will not sink through your skull. NK has clearly said, the only way she would use nukes against us, our allies, is if we invade them, to do what we have a habit of doing to nations we do not like. Need I repeat this? OK.

NK has clearly said, the only way she would use nukes against us, our allies, is if we invade them, to do what we have a habit of doing to nations we do not like.

NK has clearly said, the only way she would use nukes against us, our allies, is if we invade them, to do what we have a habit of doing to nations we do not like.



NK has clearly said, the only way she would use nukes against us, our allies, is if we invade them, to do what we have a habit of doing to nations we do not like.

So what part of that is incomprehensible to you? Or why do you simply choose to ignore something very important? You will not address this basic point, rationally, because you cannot do it.

 

Sorry, not participating further. I already told you. No time for nutter stuff. Theres a reason why conspiracy types have another section.

 

Repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make your point any more valid.

North Korea isn't Iraq. Even if the knowledge of what we did to Saddam Hussein's regime weighs on the mind of Kim Jong Un, that doesn't make this situation connected to that one in any logical way.

 

Conspiracy? I bet the Princeton Study is one huge conspiracy too? LOL I bet all of the lies our gov't has told us, is also a conspiracy too? Hey, keep on trusting. Ignore the evidence. Stick your fingers in your ears and mutter na na na na. But not all of us will do that. For some of us actually pay attention to what our reality is.

BTW, my last paragraph was hyperbole, but the rest of the post was rational, accurate and reasonable. But only to rational, reasonable minds. And you have contradicted not one single thing I have said with evidence to the contrary. And if you cannot do this, it is time you retracted your mind from this discussion. Saves me time and energy. And you too.

 

I thought I made myself clear? Im not discussing this with you.

 

Valid? It is a fact as to what they have said. It is what NK has said, several times. Now, you may think he is lying, but that is conjecture, opinion.

IMO NK is more rational than you and others like you sir.

 

Only because your irrationality does not hold up to critical thinkers.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Iraq wasn't flying missiles over Israel and Saudi Arabia. North Korea is flying missiles over Japan, and threatening to detonate a very powerful nuclear weapon over the Pacific Ocean. He's also threatened to nuke Guam, among other things. How the hell is that rational?

Your point would make sense for Iraq 15 years ago. But IMO it doesn't make any sense for North Korea right now.

 

North Korea invaded once in 1950 which started the Korean War

It cost 53,000 American lives

You are entitled to your best guess about N Korean intentions and I have mine

I think they intend to use their nukes and ICBMs to threaten the US mainland whether we invade them or not

 

you done?

 

67 years ago. Who have they invaded since then?

There is nothing in their history as a nation that would back up your opinion on them attacking us. Unless we invade them, and they have told us what they would do.

I think they are using their nukes and ICBMs to keep us out of their nation. For we since 01 have shown them what we do. Gadafi and Hussein has showned them what happenes if you get rid of a nuclear program. And their thinking is rational, given our neocon foreign policy.

NK has had the ability to tear a major city in SK to hell and back, killing so many people. Have they used this, as a threat to get some blackmail prize? If they had ever attempted such a thing, we would turn them into cinders. No different with their nukes. And if NK tried to blackmail us with nukes, china and russia would not do a thing when we turned NK into a radioactive wasteland, and massacred anyone left.

I didn't want NK to have nukes, but they have them. The cat is out of the bag. And they will not give them up, for they fear our imperialistic war mongering, as they should.

 

Yes, many times

They have been given billions in food and fuel oil by the West during the Clinton, Bush and Obama adminstrations

I think kim expected to blackmail trump too but so far the old game plan is not working

In fact I think kim really screwed up because before trump took office he was leaning toward pulling US troops out of South Korea

But not now

 

Why would I need to know how the direct talks are going not to understand that the idiot in chief undermined the SOS within a few hours of Tillerson publicly stating that he was in direct ongoing talks with NK. Your President is an embarrassment to America

 

Trump knows North Korea will never agree to disbanding their nuclear weapons program.

 

How does that defend your idiot in Chief being an embarrassment to Tillerson and America by undermining your SOS within a few hours of Tillerson publicly stating that he is in direct ongoing talks with NK.