Trump scolds NATO allies on defense spending

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  1. Diamond

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    Who's National Security is Trump a threat to (not US National Security). 23 Members of the NATO have been neglecting their own National Security for years, how it that Trump's fault and what does Russia have to do with this?
     
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    First of all, North Atlantic Treaty been signed not after WWII, but four years later, in 1949, and never aimed at preserving peace.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO#History

    Unlike it, the United Nations indeed have been established right after the end of the Second World War, and indeed are created for preservation of peace on the globe and prevention of armed hostilities among countries, along with solving global problems, such as hunger.

    NATO did nothing to preserve peace, I remind you, and - much like USSR it was during Cold War - and, despite Cold War's end, still is - an organisation that exists for sake of consalidation of power, in this case of the USA, projection of it on other NATO members - such as demands of higher defence spendings and amassing of army - and already once bringed world on the brink of total atomic annihilation in 1962.
     
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    Thread title- Trump scolds NATO allies on defense spending
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    I absolutely LURV Don..:)
    5 minutes ago he was just an ordinary guy with no political experience, but now he's a central figure on the world stage lecturing halfwitted politicians without the slightest hint of nervousness..:)
     
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    2% is still 2% no matter what nation has more or less wealth.
     
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    Yes, and for some people (23 nations out of 28 in this case) it's been cheaper than for others.
     
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    We pay the biggest share of NATO. We pay the biggest share of the U.N. the list of items like that is endless. Many countries pay little or nothing.

    Someday, Atlas will shrug.
     
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    Invasions do not solve that problem, and never will. I can tell you what will, but you are not going to like it.
     
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    So how is that supporting the world?
     
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    Yes, but why should we pay 3% of our GDP when other countries are paying 0.5%? And they count generous military pensions as part of their defense spending? Crazy.

    If you want to play, you have to pay.
     
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    Yes, and if Putin invades the snivelling little welchers we should let him have 'em and good riddence..:)
     
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    Right. So you can get along without our money.

    We'll just withdraw and stay home. Washington warned us 200+ years ago to stay out of foreign entanglements.
     
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    So, it sounds to me like some people there generally are NOT interested in keeping NATO at all. Then what's the problem?

    Dissolute it and maybe world will finally give United Nations the authority needed for a really effective work.
     
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    Yes, we can, thanks very much. We are already a nuclear power. Yes, please stay home. The world will be a much more peaceful place without your imbecilic ****-stirring, warmongering and invasions.
     
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    That 3% is not for NATO security. That is for raging utterly pointless wars against 3rd world countries in the middle east and provoking China by cruising up and down their military positions.
     
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    I don't even understand why the US bothers to be a member of NATO. I guess it just had an empty hand looking for some dead-weight to carry around. Greenland isn't on the hook and neither is North Africa. There is no such thing as a SATO, or a NPTO, or a SPTO. NATO needs to be torn down like the Berlin wall, it's out dated, it does not run to the aid of other members, and Turkey isn't even on the North Atlantic.
     
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    If you think Trump is bad you should have seen that other candidate.
     
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    Good points, I agree that Germany should step up and take the lead.
     
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    Trump also threatened German automobile manufacturers that he would put a 35% tariff on German cars being sold in the US. Dumb SOB doesn't know that 65% of BMWs manufactured in Spartanburg, SC are sold overseas.
     
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    Or maybe it just means that after 70 years Europe should be left to fend for itself.
     
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    China took over what was an international shipping lane. They are the aggressor, not us. Is that above your head?
     
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    Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
     
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    The U.N. is incompetent and worthless. It's filled with third world dictators.
     
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    Have your mother ever washed your mouth with a domestic soap?
     
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    United Nations is a thing that stops hegemons from inflicting an era of neo-colonialism at the world.

    It is organisation that keeps world civil, that let's it progress - and not just so called "first world", but WHOLE world. WHOLE humanity.
     
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    No, I leave brain damaged commentary to conservative Americans. But thanks for your concern.
     
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