Trump son met Russian lawyer after promise of damaging info. on Clinton

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    Gee and here I thought the Republicans were claiming Obama decimated the military. Wow how things change. Guess we don't need Trump's massive increase in military spending after all. You have personally saved the taxpayers billions by revealing the truth.
     
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    We used to believe the media wasn't in bed with one party and lying constantly about the news they invent to try to push our nation into a communist state but the left are so corrupt today, that's where we are.
     
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    President Trump wasn't at any meeting, and what lies from his son are you referring to in your claim that "everywhere they search Trump lies turn up".
     
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    I guess if it isn't made up by a liberal fake news source it doesn't count huh? I guess there has to be no evidence for it to be a real news story huh? You libs are an interesting bunch.
     
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    Somehow it isn't the press that is friend of Russia. Thst title goes to Trump.
     
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    He did. What are you on about?

    The goal is to have what you need to suit the mission you give them. If you want to change the mission, then that is one thing. But just because we have the greatest army in history, doesn't mean it's adequate for the mission we gave them.

    Liberals just really don't get how the military works, on even a basic level. The same can be said of business.
     
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    Oh and I'm sure you have evidence, right? Cause you libs are all about evidence. It's only the lack of evidence you can get behind.
     
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    It's been that way for a while. You may remember the "Extreme Right Winger Ronnie Ray Gun" and how upset the Leftist media were when he called the evil USSR an Evil Empire. It's not the corrupt media that's the problem, it's the people who are naive enough to believe them. Luckily that's disappearing, even among Democrats.
     
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    No my statement was there was no evidence that Hillary was connected to the Russians. That still stands. Just like so far we have no evidence that President Trump was directly connected to the Russians. But the Trump lie has been that nobody in his campaign was connected to the Russians and thst has been proven a big fat lie.
     
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    We need a special counsel to investigate Hillary. I'm sure you are okay with that?
     
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    And old Ronnie certainly earned the nickname after spending billions on his missile defense system that still doesn't work.
     
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    I am fine with that. Who knows maybe she will even be impeached. But to paraphrase the fat boy " she lost, get over it"
     
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    A wonderfully factual response. And why do you think spending even more on the biggest military in the world is going to make them any more ready tor the mission we gave them which I assume you means beating a few terrorists.
     
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    I think you need to take your own advice, you lost, get over it. Stop all pissing your pants already. Sheesh
     
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    It didn't have to work. You're not a history buff so you don't know the objections the Russians made, and the left wing media, when he proposed "Star Wars" (the name itself a media creation)

    SDI created an arms race and broke the bank, and the spirit, of the USSR. If you're interested in the subject, and then want to debate, this is a very readable account of what happened during that period. https://www.amazon.com/President-Pope-Prime-Minister-Changed/dp/159698550X
     
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    Assuming that Old Ronnie gets credit for breaking Russia do you think the world and America is safer now? And I do agree that Ronnies increase in military spending probably hurt Russia but why would he spend it on something that didn't work.
     
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    I think we should alter the mission, in a reduced manner. But, if we want to keep doing what we have been doing, we will need equipment upgrades as we go along. That's just obvious.

    If you think the only thing the US military is doing, is "beating a few terrorists", you are grossly naive in regards to day to day global operations.
     
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    'Old Ronnie'? The man is dead. Try to respond like an adult and you'll be treated like one.

    The world was safer until BHO pulled the troops from Iraq in December, 2011. Now there will likely be smaller international wars, just as there was with Communism during the Cold War What's your take?
     
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    No other country can challenge us militarily now and our military spending is equal to the next eight countries combined so it seems rather hard to defend increasing military spending to an even greater part of our national budget.

    And if you actually look at how many military installation we have worldwide, and the top heavy weighting of the military organization it appears hard to argue that our military is even slightly cost effective.
     
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    The current mission is to be ready and able to invade in three theaters simultaneously. We are woefully under supplied to do that. Again, if you want to talk about changing the mission, I am all ears. But, so long as this is the mission, this is what it requires, and we are short of that. This isn't complicated to understand.

    The goal of no military, on THIS PLANET, is to be cost effective. The goal is to be defense effective. You don't build an army because you want to say you fought in a war, and made a passable showing. You build it because you want to WIN the war.

    This is why Liberals should not engage in military discussions. Just sayin...
     
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    My take is that the world was much safer when all the client states were controlled bu either the US or the USSR.


    My take is that the world was much safer when there were two superpowers dividing the world instead of just one.
     
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    No the goal of of the military which is subservient to the civilian government is to defend the country in a cost effective manner. Your position is why Conservatives should never get their hands on the budget.

    This is the stated mission from the DOD:

    MISSION
    The mission of the Department of Defense is to provide the military forces needed to deter war and to protect the security of our country. The department's headquarters is at the Pentagon.
     
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    Dude. Just stop. You have NO idea what you are talking about. YOUR goal for the military, is not the actual factual mission they have been given by Congress. We don't have the 11 largest aircraft carriers in the word, merely to patrol our shores. The military has been given a wide ranging mission, via the legislative process, and succeeding in that mission requires various things to accomplish it.

    If Conservatives ever got our hands on the budget, it would be balanced. The horror...
     
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    But your take has nothing to do with facts. Over 100 million people died from the spread of Communism and of course many millions more lived unfree lives or died early deaths. How can this possible be safe? Of course you and/or your family may have been safe, which is something quite different, but that was because of people like Ronald Reagan. It is truly a shame there many millions like you who have no understanding of even recent history. It should definitely be taught in schools.
     

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