Trump surrenders Syria to ISIS

Because the war-profiteering military-industrial complex put massive pressure on him.

The American people via the media? What the hell does that even mean? I suppose you forgot that the American people via ELECTIONS made Trump the President, and that they did so in large part BECAUSE he wanted to get out of Syria.

Wow.

You sure do love wars and militarism and authority. You sound like a hardcore right-winger. Tell me, why do you favor an illegal war that is unnecessary and costs taxpayers billions of dollars and which has killed hundreds and perhaps thousands of innocent Muslims?

Stupid hyperbole from a war-loving, Trump-hating establishment.

US occupation of Syria is illegal, unnecessary, and stupid.

People like you want us to stay there forever and waste billions of dollars in the process. And you want to empower unelected generals to decide important political issues over an elected president. Next thing you know, you'll be asking for a military coup to save the country from representative government. How very illiberal of you.

By the way, the only people who think Trump's decision to withdraw was "abrupt" are the war-lovers who want us to stay there forever. Everyone else thinks a withdrawal is LONG overdue.

 

I never said we did. Review what I did say.

Already answered. You want me to wast my time repeating myself. Read the OP. Read my other posts. Read "Putin is pleased with his protégé, Donald Trump."

As I have said, you are in full agreement with Vladimir Putin. So is Trump. That is my point. Fortunately, Trump was overruled.

 

The Iraq war was a war of aggression. According to the Bush administration, there were three major factors that cause him to attack Iraq. All three were false. The idea that Obama is responsible for the growth of Islamic terrorism in the Mideast is totally absurd for a number of reasons and those who profess it (Trump and his fans) are simply fantasizing because the Trump administration is both incompetent and dangerous.

In Iraq Americans did the bulk of the fighting. In Syria Americans are providing training, guidance, and air support for the Kurds and Syrian rebels who are doing the real fighting. We are fighting ISIS and the murderous regime of Assad while trying eliminate Russian influence in the Mideast. Those are three righteous reasons for American forces in Syria.

Which is why Trump's NSA, John Bolton, is contravening Trump's surrender order.

The N.Y. Times reports, "John R. Bolton, rolled back on Sunday Mr. Trump’s decision to rapidly withdraw from Syria, laying out conditions for a pullout that could leave American forces there for months or even years.

Mr. Bolton, making a visit to Israel, told reporters that American forces would remain in Syria until the last remnants of the Islamic State were defeated and Turkey provided guarantees that it would not strike Kurdish forces allied with the United States. He and other top White House advisers have led a behind-the-scenes effort to slow Mr. Trump’s order and reassure allies, including Israel.

“We don’t think the Turks ought to undertake military action that’s not fully coordinated with and agreed to by the United States, at a minimum so they don’t endanger our troops,” Mr. Bolton said in Jerusalem, where he was traveling ahead of a visit Tuesday to Turkey.

Mr. Bolton’s comments inserted into Mr. Trump’s strategy something the president had omitted when he announced on Dec. 19 that the United States would depart within 30 days: any conditions that must be met before the pullout."

The Times was being kind. Trump's surrender order was insane.

 

Obama surrendered Syria to Putin....it's a done deal.

Trump beat ISIS....no reason to be there anymore.

 

“We have won against ISIS,” Mr. Trump declared in a video posted December 19 on Twitter, adding, “Our boys, our young women, our men — they’re all coming back, and they’re coming back now.”

Trump on January 6 claimed that troops will withdraw from Syria, but "we won't be finally pulled out until ISIS is gone."

"The Failing New York Times has knowingly written a very inaccurate story on my intentions on Syria," Trump wrote in a tweet. Gosh, Trump can be hilarious at times.

However, he wasn't through making a complete fool of himself.

His tweet continued. "No different from my original statements, we will be leaving at a proper pace while at the same time continuing to fight ISIS and doing all else that is prudent and necessary!....."

Trump is the only "commander" in the history of the world to claim his troops will continue to fight while leaving the battlefield.

 

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Trump has given Syria to ISIS.

 

No, that's what Obama, Kerry and Clinton did

 

Correction: it's what the Republicans did.

 

Your Obama and company regime change champions created this mess

 

Of course they did , anyone that pays attention knows this. Yet the i hate trumpers continue to just make stuff up and never seem to tire repeating it over and over again. Amazing.

 

Yah..... we do hate the most ignorant traitor ever elected to public office. That’s an easy one.

 

What are you talking about - This is complete BS and you were already been made aware of this fact. Syria just as bad - if not worse than Iraq - sans the fact that we were not using our own soldiers. The Syrian Rebels were ISIS and Al Qaeda by en large. - the Kurds were not part of the rebels fighting against Assad. These were the groups we were arming and supporting - hence the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act".

It is Assad and the Russians who were fighting ISIS - by the time we started attacking ISIS in Syria they had mostly been defeated. Prior to that we were supporting them.

What a bunch of clueless nonsense.

"Assad was a murderous regime" Perhaps, but not even close to Saudi Arabia who are our good buddies. After 911 we were sending people to Assad for "Extraordinary Rendition" a polite way of saying "Torture"

In Syria we were supporting Islamist Extremists while they were raping and murdering Christians and other marginalized groups - in full knowledge that this was what we were doing - as per declassified Defence Intelligence Agency Reports.

 

So you want war with Russia? If Russia wants their air and naval bases that bad, let them deal with ISIS.

 

As there was never any clear indication of who we were actually fighting I don't think using the term "surrender" would be valid in any context. Syria is still a sovereign country, so us being there uninvited was an invasion which congress NEVER approved.

Not to mention as others have already stated, ISIS is more likely to be defeated with us OUT, so leaving is actually the best course of action if defeating ISIS was ever actually the goal. Nonetheless, we all know it wasn't. Either way, our troops should never have been there. If congress were to declare war on Syria, or to negotiate a treaty with Syria, then we'd have precedence to say we accomplished anything. Personally of course I'm of the opinion to never declare war unless the last resort.

 

We’re to beleive a group that supports The idiot servant Trump, invaded Iraq to begin with and followed a plan to exist Iraq decided by Bush and the Iraqi government. The Iraqi Govt. Refused the recertification of continued American involvement and keeping troops there would literally be a re-invasion of Iraq.
Now, you want to reinvent history. Everything from 9-11 to letting BinLaden go free to consistent blunders happened under republicans and it continues still.
Geesus, you guys don’t even believe in science. Now you’re trying to rewrite history while you give away the economy to Trump and Putin, the two biggest global con men in the world. Sick.

 

Thank you for agreeing that Trump was not even as effective as Obama in Syria and has surrendered to ISIS there.

 

Unpossible.

I wa assured that Trump was a warring warmonger who loves war.

No way a war-loving warmonger wouldn't go to war.

 

Assad was the reason for ISIS.. Syria has been a cruel and brutal dictatorship since 1970.. Are you familiar with their history

 

The JV team?

 

Sorry, Obama created ISIS, he then turned Syria over to Putin, in his more "flexible" phase.

I wonder if Nancy P will be having tea with Assad anytime soon?

 

Highly unpossible.

Warmongers never surrender.

 

It was a put down... Basically, Obama was calling them punks.

 

ISIS was born in Cam Bucca prison in Iraq in 2004. They are Baathists formerly soldiers in Saddam's army.

 

Yes in prison...the Obama admin released the leadership in 2009