Trump surrenders Syria to ISIS

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Bush was the father of ISIS, Obama had them beaten down, and Trump rescued ISIS.
     
  2. JakeStarkey

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    The Iraqi leadership released the leadership of ISIS; Bush is the father of ISIS.
     
  3. struth

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    On what planet are you living ? When Bush was in office they were in prison...Obama let them loose on the world and trunpnhas beaten rhem
     
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    Obama's redline was hot air with nothing behind it. Assad remained standing and unscathed when Obama left office.
     
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    Nope, they were in US custody, try again
     
  6. JakeStarkey

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    Nope, they were in custody of the Iraqi, as almost all Iraqi prisoners were at that time.

    See, struth, this is the way the election cycle is going to go: Real America will tell the truth, and when Trumpers lie,a s they will every day, their lies will be exposed and broken.
     
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    Syria is not his to give, but I know you're trying to make a joke.
     
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    Once again you are wrong. The leader was arrested in 2004, by US Forices and keep until 2009 at Camp Bucca,

    I am not gonna call you are a liar, I think you are just grossly misinformed
     
  9. JakeStarkey

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    Careful with personality attacks. So, if you are right, the US had one leaders not the entire leadership. OK.
     
  10. Hoosier8

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    Yeah, dismissing the 'punks' so they could run rampant.
     
  11. Observing

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    Surrender Syria to ISIS? Syria is not ours to surrender. You understand why ISIS and Al qaeda hate us, it is because we are over there. All we have to do is stay out of the mideast and things will calm down. There are now 500,000 dead Iraqis because of us. What do you think the relatives of those dead think about the USA.

    Now during the prior to our energy independence from Mideast energy, there was a reason for our involvement, as our nation was tied by need to the region. That is no longer the case. And over the next 20 years the dependence on fossil fuels by western nations will shrink to a small percentage of what they are now.
     
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    And we give weapons to SA and they in turn give them to Al quada. we are arming the guys that flew planes into our cities and want to overthrow a dictator that allows Christians and Kurds to live undisturbed.
     
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    You're saying things in that region were calm before the US had troops in the region?
     
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    No, but there were 500,000 more alive Iraquis, and 150,000 afgans but even more important 4000 American and 6 trill not wasted.
     
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    Trump has surrendered, period
     
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    The leader and founder! Obama released him, then turned over Iraq to them
     
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    How did we get there in the first place? Something about oil in Kuwait and tall buildings in New York? We heard the left scream to get out now every day of the Bush Presidency and then Obama did, do you remember what happened next? Why do you think that wouldn't happen again?
     
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    Bush turned over Iraq, struth, because he would not negotiate with the Iraqis, and Obama was trapped by that awful Bush negotiation.

    The ISIS (father by Bush) was then released
     
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    Huh? we were in Iraq when Bush left offiice, and Bush did negotiate with the Iraqis.....it was Obama who failed to renegotiate and status of force agreement. Obama was trapped by his own failure to renegoatite an agreement.
     
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    Not sure why you posted this to me I hate Trump - and post nasty things about him on a regular basis What group that supports Trump are you referring to ? and what is with the - rant about Iraq .. 911 and Bin Laden .. and lastly Putin ? What does any of this have to do with the well established fact that

    1) The rebel opposition in Syria was mostly Al Qaeda and ISIS - those that were not these two were of the same ilk and/or affiliated with them.
    2) We armed and supported these radical Islamist extremists / were on the same side of the war.



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    Loony tunes- Jake - since when did you turn Neocon ? - and since when is it not a good thing to stop arming supporting Islamist Extremists such as Al Qaeda and ISIS ?

    Get a grip.
     
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    While what you say is True - we and others were involved in supplying weapons to Al Qaeda and ISIS.
     
  24. JakeStarkey

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    Huh? We were finishing a deadline that Bush refused to extend before he left office.

    Obama could not negotiate that deadline. Bush was trapped by his own failure to renegotiate in good faith.
     
  25. JakeStarkey

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    Yep, loony tunes in the right. ISIS was father and armed by Bush.

    You support surrendering to the jihadists. Who ever would have thought the right would turn tail and run.
     

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