Trump vs. Trudeau...

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  1. Liberty Monkey

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    Funny everything you think about Trump is how we think about Trudeau, this probably says a lot about peoplekind lol.
     
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    I believe that the rest of the world admires Trudeau, while they abhor Trump. The 'we' that you mention are, in reality, a very small minority who may one day figure out how misguided they are. I'm watching British news right now. Of course the 'we' doesn't like them either. Doesn't like anyone who doesn't think Trump is the bee's knees. But of course they don't. And the news from the UK is that Trump is a complete loser.
     
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    But you're a female, Spooky - you're supposed to loathe him? [​IMG]
     
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    Rest of the world doesn't include China, South Korea, Japan & Russia lol. Asian's respect Trump for being a hard ass they've not been pussyfied like the western world.

    Trump is far more respected than Trudeau lol because people will smile at Trudeau and shake his hand but will also rip Canada blind because he's a weak human being who can be manipulated easy. He sacred of his own shadow in case people call it racist for being black.

    Trump is a force of nature.
     
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    How could one forget such a wild, imprevisible, exiting man such as Stephen Harper ??? Incredible.
     
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    LOL, lame Jonsa. The US export to Canada is less than 20% of the entire US export. On the other hand:

    Canada export to the US - 76% of the entire Canada's export
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    https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/exports-by-country

    Good luck with a trade war jeopardizing 76% of your export market, you must be delusional to even imagine it is winnable. Frankly I hope Canada quickly comes to its senses, removes barriers to fair trade, eliminate trade deficit and we will all just get along again.
     
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    As a former boxer myself, I found out that it was, to the contrary, quite a lively match, all on the offensive (like so many short, amateur matches).

    I don't know how many here would have had the nerve to confront conservative, native senator Brazeau, a rough man who had problems with intimidation and the law. And yet, he was indeed in Trudeau's weight class, who had a better reach and did not spent himself all in the first round.
     
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    I've never given this much thought until this thread but can someone tell me, please - what is it that Canada exports? [​IMG]
     
  10. Liberty Monkey

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    Maple Syrup and Trailer park boys, they do also make Labatts but that's dog piss.
     
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    That's total BS. Tear yourself away from RW propaganda sites.

    If Trump is a force of nature, he is a very destructive one. If he is a force of a nature, so were Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot. Trump is a lot dumber than any of those guys though, which has a good aspect and bad aspect. Hopefully he is too dumb to be as destructive as they were, but he may be too dumb to avoid causing something very cataclysmic. For example, what he did to the G7 and with tariffs on our strongest allies: absolutely moronic. He's a fool. Because he is such a baboon, that may limit the damage he can do. I hope so.

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    We have an actual President fighting for America and American jobs after past Presidents gave away the farm. No wonder you are so upset.
     
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    LOL tear yourself away from you left wing BS sites and see the country hasn't ended yet.

    Honestly try reading AP rather than MSNBC
     
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    How Donald Trump made Justin Trudeau a global superstar

    https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-made-justin-trudeau-a-global-superstar/

    "Now, as Trudeaumania’s second wave crests in Canada, Justin Trudeau is proving he’s no passing fad, either. Thanks to one of those proverbial elephant twitches, he has found himself in that most unlikely of roles for a Canadian prime minister: global leader. And where his father inhabited that position through sheer force of exertion, the junior Trudeau has assumed the role thanks in large part to the political turmoil south of Canada’s border. Before November, Ottawa’s young Prince Charming was headed for trouble. Now, it’s no exaggeration to say that Donald Trump is saving Justin Trudeau’s Canadian bacon."
     
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    You are so misguided. I feel sorry for people who have almost no understanding of reality.

    And BTW Trump is not respecterd anywhere except in 3rd world dictatorships.

    And also BTW: China, Japan, and South Korea--they do not respect Trump. They are playing him just like Putin and Kim are. Japan and South Korea are so desperate to get Kim denuclearized, they will try anything. But it isn't going to happen. Everybody plays Trump: he's an egomaniacal narcissist and stupid with it.
     
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    Your so full of hate and unable to see past your own nose to realise that we're not the enemy, I pity you.

    You should try reading some books and getting off facebook.
     
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    That's just hilariously funny.
     
  18. Liberty Monkey

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    Because it's true! Read your posts see just how far you've drifted to extreme leftism it's not healthy take a middle ground don't hate so much because you only have a dark place in front of you if you cannot escape this cycle of hate you will become an even more bitter person.

    I would suggest you smoke a big fattie you might find everything matters a lot less.
     
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    I have always said that nobody wins in a trade war, its just that one side loses less. For instance Americans would be seriously inconvenienced and making up the 4 miillion barrels of oil we ship to you daily, or 46% of your total imports and 20% of refinery capacity would make Your gas prices would shoot thru the roof. Not good for domestic partisan politics, wot?



    We would no doubt suffer some serious initial damage, but considering the other free trade deals we have with both the East and West and China is lusting after an oil deal. IN fact, in the long run, such a shock to our economic structure would work out well with Canada become a far larger international trading partner within our numerous free trade and bi lateral trade deals.

    Course we'd be willing to listen if the US was prepared to do exactly the same, with say the 350% tariff on tobacco.

    Oh look Trump once again is demonstrating "do as I say and not as I do" and his supporters continue to spout ignorant nonsense and bullshit, because facts make them look like fools.
     
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    We have a trade surplus with Canada.

    "U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $673.9 billion in 2017. Exports were $341.2 billion; imports were $332.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $8.4 billion in 2017."

    https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada
    IOW, you don't know what you're talking about and are parroting Trump propaganda.
     
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    Uh huh.

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    First of all, with all my due respect, this is nonsense, when you capitulate, we win, even if there will be temporary losses on both sides until you capitulate.

    Second, you should have thought about it when you started the war and slapped tariffs and taxes on American goods and services. What do you think FT in NAFTA stand for and how do Canadian tariffs fit in with it?

    Third, the idea that tiny Canada can go toe to toe with the monstrous American economy is ludicrous, we won't even notice any inconvenience by the time Canadian economy which is fully dependent on the US will completely collapse.

    Last but not the least, i like Canada and hope it can all be resolved without too much damage but you people should come to grips with the fact that you are in the wrong here and need to compromise .
     
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    We don't need allies--right?

    Well, our unneeded ally to the north has 7% of the entire world's fully renewable fresh water. The West and Midwest have an emerging water shortage....

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    ... but we don't need them to make the sacrifices, starting very soon, they will have to make to supply us with the water we will desperately need.

    Do you think they're going to help us if we treat them like dirt?
     
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    How do our tariffs on Canadian goods fit in with it?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_softwood_lumber_dispute

    An unsupportable analysis. We won't stop buying Canadian natural resources or will they stop buying Apple iPhones if there's a chill on free trade. They won't cut off our Midwest supply of natural gas. The Canadian economy won't collapse.
    Canada is not "in the wrong here." Both countries have backed away from 100% free trade because of a need to protect strategic industries and lobbying by business interests. Trump advanced a false narrative where Canada is concerned. We have legit beefs with China, Japan, and the EU, but not with Canada.
     
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    we deliver 45% of total American oil imports daily.

    https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada

    Imports

    • Canada was the United States' 3rd largest supplier of goods imports in 2017.
    • U.S. goods imports from Canada totaled $300.0 billion in 2017, up 8.0% ($22.2 billion) from 2016, but down 5.4% from 2007. U.S. imports from Canada are up 170% from 1993 (pre-NAFTA). U.S. imports from Canada account for 12.8% of overall U.S. imports in 2017.
    • The top import categories (2-digit HS) in 2017 were: mineral fuels ($73 billion), vehicles ($56 billion), machinery ($21 billion), special other (returns) ($14 billion), and plastics ($11 billion).
    • U.S. total imports of agricultural products from Canada totaled $22 billion in 2017, our 2nd largest supplier of agricultural imports. Leading categories include: snack foods ($4.2 billion), red meats, fr/ch/fr ($2.3 billion), other vegetable oils ($2.0 billion), processed fruit & vegetables ($1.5 billion), and fresh vegetables ($1.4 billion).
    • U.S. imports of services from Canada were an estimated $32.8 billion in 2017, 9.5% ($2.8 billion) more than 2016, and 27.6% greater than 2007 levels. It was up roughly 260% from 1993 (pre-NAFTA). Leading services imports from Canada to the U.S. were in the travel, transportation, and telecommunications, computer, and information services sectors.
    Trade Balance

    • The U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $17.5 billion in 2017, a 59.7% increase ($6.5 billion) over 2016.
    • The United States has a services trade surplus of an estimated $26 billion with Canada in 2017, up 8.0% from 2016.
    Investment

    • U.S. foreign direct investment (FDI) in Canada (stock) was $363.9 billion in 2016 (latest data available), a 5.0% increase from 2015. U.S. direct investment in Canada is led by manufacturing, nonbank holding companies, and finance/insurance.
    • Canada's FDI in the United States (stock) was $371.5 billion in 2016 (latest data available), up 15.3% from 2015. Canada's direct investment in the U.S. is led by manufacturing, finance/insurance, and wholesale trade.
    • Sales of services in Canada by majority U.S.-owned affiliates were $121.3 billion in 2015 (latest data available), while sales of services in the United States by majority Canada-owned firms were $100.0 billion.
     

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