Trump wants to impose work requirement for food stamp users

$2 an hour. For someone with a full-time job that is $80 per week. $320 per month. If they get a second job and work another 20 hours per week that is another $160. So $480 per month.

Do you think anyone can live on that? Especially with no other benefits?

 

Trump supporters ARE the hardworking people of America. In spite of large un employment.... to many of the Democrat base find it more fruitful to collect food stamps, unemployment, child subsidies etc. than to work. Now that is going to change so Trump won't need to hire migrant workers at his resorts.

 

They don't try for the most part from what I have read. Not saying it is right, just that they focus on convenience stores mostly. There is the added problem that some people actually shop for others using their EBT card--elderly relatives and the like.

 

You'll likely find most of them in CODIS, all they need is DNA from the kid. DNA works, they caught the clowns that stole my car in December 2014. They stupidly left soda cans, cigarette butts and beer bottles in the car. They were free till they did something wrong, got arrested and had their DNA run through CODIS.

 

Clarified later in the thread. Incidentally folks, everything in the world that someone does in exchange for pay is not guaranteed or even likely to provide complete financial support in and of itself. The attitude that it should is one of the things wrong with this country.

 

Yeah, well. Get back to me when they go all Solyndra on the bit.

 

LIbs are up in arms about this proposal because they believe that it's free if the government pays for it.

 

Eliminate food stamps and half of the USA farmers would go bankrupt. Interestingly, this is a large segment of the Republican voting base. By ending the program that party will lose a great many voters.

 

Or, or YOU AND I can work hard at our jobs and then pay the gov't to then pay those people instead of them having to "pick up trash on the roads, etc."
Hehe, the correct answer sounds pretty obvious when it's framed that way, no!? I'd be glad to pay them for picking up trash, but not happy to pay them for NOT picking up trash. Work-fare, not welfare.

 

I'm lazy, so I want other people to work hard to pay for all my s**t.

Would birth-control also be a good requirement for welfare recipients?

 

USA gives approximately $30 billion in international food aid:


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/foreign-aid-these-countries-are-the-most-generous/


Will those people also be forced to "work" for this aid???

 

No they just won't get any.

 

Well there's the issue then.

The number of stores that would buy the cards from a stranger is probably pretty low. Criminals are a suspicious sort, after all.

That and most of the fraud would occur prior to getting to the store.

That's a great idea. We should implement that too.

I mean I'm all for emergency aid due to disasters and stuff, but why are we giving aid to countries that are already socialist utopias?

 

Isn't it interesting how right wingers object to poor Americans getting food stamps even though it has been conclusively proven to be the most successful safety net program in history by benefiting the poor, the farmers, and small grocery shops. Yet these same deluded right wingers so often applaud the giving of multiple BILLIONS in food assistance and military welfare to Israel and other foreign countries even though these people never paid a cent in taxes to the USA.

There is just no end to the hypocrisy and double standards of these right wingers!

 

Most of those countries are failed capitalist societies. The one "socialist utopia" is, quite ironically, Israel who socialist state run medical coverage was praised by Mitt Romney.

 

They pay what the job is worth and no one should expect to be payed more.

 

Food stamps are only there for fat lazy managers. They can pay their workers less because the government helps them out. So there is more money for themselves to add to their own wages.

 

I am not sure how many people would just sell their card to never have it again. My understanding is primarily what these stores do is to convert them to cash for a hefty cut or sell them things like beer and cigarettes at the register. It may be they will run a $10 purchase through as $60 in approved merchandise, give the recipient $25 in cash and keep $25 in cash for themselves, or ring up a six-pack for twice the price as food and not booze.

 

This was the jobs president according to folks like you.

 

Work requirements allow for that. THIS is the result of 8 years of Democrat control where huge increases in food stamp recipients was considered a worthy goal

 

^ a trend started under Bush

 

Well, I guess you could say that drug dealing IS unregulated capitalism. But "good" in any world view, not too sure.

I'm white BTW, & remember, the totals I listed, apply ONLY to 350 dealers..... That's just over a quarter billion dollars a year..... From just 2 markets in the Midwest.

 

Good point.

After my first felony conviction, I was on pins & needles after they took my DNA....


Was just waiting for more charges after the fact....

 

They probably hand them off for an agreed sum, person takes card, goes to store buys stuff, comes back, cash is exchanged, card is given back.

Both have reasons to ensure the card is handed back after use.

Do they verify the user of an EBT card in any way? I've never actually looked at one closely.

 

I can tell you from my practice, the seller would be WITH me, so's they couldn't weasel out of the deal.... After the transaction(s) they get the card back.

I've never heard/seen any store practice what you state, but I'm sure it happens.... Less practice, but meh.