Trump Will Fire Mueller

Yes, I found your comments to be funny as well, given the lies you spewed; you claimed Nixon was impeached, he wasn't. He resigned before he could be impeached by the House, which was certain given the votes in the House Judiciary committee. You claimed Clinton wasn't impeached, he was most definitely impeached by the House and at the subsequent trial the Senate did not convict him. There has been only 2 presidents impeached, Clinton & Andrew Johnson, neither were convicted in the Senate. Trump just might end up being the next one, who knows at this point .

 

Rosenstein chose his words very carefully. Your conclusion is only as deep as you're willing to see.

 

what are we impeaching him for again?

 

You need to go to my thread and look at my last several post and then tell us he isn't doing a good job or being a good President. THE FIX WAS IN FROM THE START.

Rosenstein: "No Allegation in This Indictment That Any American Had Any Knowledge" Of Russian Election Influence Operation.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ve_deputy_ag_rod_rosenstein_announcement.html

 

Let me know when it happens. I'll get the popcorn going.

 

You people want to hang onto the words this indictment and forget he said No American had any knowledge of Russian influence.I am sure they have gone months and found nothing. They aren't going to find anything. If they thought they would they wouldn't even have mentioned the second part and just stated the Russian part.

 

Correct, but it would go before the Supreme Court if challenged. What's he being impeached for again? The Republicans never once mentioned impeaching Obama, and they had the votes to do it. Is this how this is going to go from now into perpetuity? And trust me, Obama had some things on the table that were grounds for impeachment considering the insignificant trash being heaped on Trump.

 

And you people choose to selectively ignore words. Good luck with the conclusions you’re choosing to draw while actively ignoring what is right in front of your face. Seriously, good luck.

 

Well please tell me what is right in front of my face I don't see. Tell me what information you have that Mueller has left out that the rest of us don't know.

 

Holy crapinoli. Did you ever get this wrong.

You have some serious larnin' to do.

 

Clinton was impeached, he continued to serve out his term though. I forgot that not by the Senate until I just read another post by an old guy.

 

That's a damn lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama

"During Barack Obama's tenure as President of the United States from 2009 to 2017, certain Republican members of Congress stated that Obama may have engaged in impeachable activity and that he might face attempts to remove him from office.[1] Rationales offered for possible impeachment included false claims[2] that Obama was born outside the United States, that he allegedly allowed people to use bathrooms based on their gender identity, an alleged White House cover-up after the 2012 Benghazi attack and failure to enforce immigration laws. No list of articles of impeachment was ever drawn up and proposed to the Judiciary Committee.Multiple surveys of U.S. public opinion found that the clear majority of Americans rejected the idea of impeaching Obama, while a majority of Republicans were in favor; for example, CNN found in July 2014 that 57% of Republicans supported efforts while about two thirds of adult Americans in general disagreed."

 

How many times did that come to a vote? All are obscure, other than Benghazi.

 

That's because an impeachment is the political equivalent of an indictment.

The Trial is in the Senate, and he was acquitted of all charges/

House indicts.
Senate removes after trial if votes are there.

The vote to remove for Clinton wasn't even close.

 

"navigator2 said: ↑... The Republicans never once mentioned impeaching Obama,"
^
LIE.

 

Another Trumper lie debunked

 

Where in the hot hazy hell are you getting your civics lessons?

Man alive.

How is it someone could be so consistently wrong about the very basics??

 

You can falsify all you want. If Trump fires Mueller, the Senate will end all his legislation until he is replaced. All of his EOs will be thrown into court. The appropriate federal district court and DA will subpoena Mueller's records and continue the investigation. Mueller will be able to go public.

 

Nonsense. Trump cannot fire Mueller. If he issued the order, Mueller would say "no" and carry on.

 

But he does it with such an authoritative "style" doesn't he?

I've seen that often with Trumpers

 

He can try, and he will fail.

 

This is right in front of your face, to start:

"In this indictment"

Those words could not have been chosen more carefully. Let's just start there since you're the one drawing all your conclusions without paying attention to those words and the implications they bring, as convenient as it is for you to ignore them.

The door is WIDE open.

 

I started a thread for the democrats to show up with facts.

But in the meantime, what factual evidence do you have to support your opinions? You jumped to 4 items, so why did you select those?

 

I think what happened in 2016 was unexpected even by the GOP and Trump. It was an example of swing voters, not necessarily independents but registered democrats and republicans, who decided to take a chance on someone who wasn't Hillary Clinton and just happened to live in the right states to make a difference. That "magic" isn't going to repeat itself. In 2018, it's clear where the GOP stands after 2 years of majority governing and where they want to go. And in 2020, it will be even more clear what Trump is or isn't, if he makes it to 2020 that is. If the GOP keeps the house and senate in 2018, that shouldn't come as a shock. That was the expected result anyway. It's only shocking if they lose one or both. 2018 is the GOP's to lose.

 

Even if it doesn't, the threat of impeachment is leverage over Trump. Even the GOP can use it. They can make it clear that if Trump takes certain actions, they can only protect him so far. No one has to be impeached. Bill Clinton's impeachment was made by the House knowing full well the senate was incredibly unlikely to convict. It was political theater. And it backfired as Clinton came out of it, for worse, looking like a political victim and thus obscuring his sexual abuses. Only now is his legacy being tarnished by his actions. So while impeachment may not happen, if it does happen, it will be weaponized as best as possible as it always has been.