Trump: Will sign something to keep families together

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Did it? Or did a right wing post it solely to make the follow up meme?
     
  2. An Old Guy

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    Obama did no such thing. Please provide proof the Obama administration kidnapped 2,300 + children in a span of about 6 weeks and distributed them to detention centers across the country. I'll wait......
     
  3. zbr6

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    Why are you asking me?

    I thought leftists are supposed to be the most informed on any subject, you should already know.

    Of course the reality is that you've just made up your mind sans any fact ...like always.

    Cognitive bias leftist, "I'm right because I say so".
     
  4. Josephwalker

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    I never claimed he did that. I claimed he locked up children of arrested illegals in the same cages Trump is using.

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    "Detainees sleep and watch television in a holding cell where hundreds of mostly Central American immigrant children were being processed and held at the CBP Nogales on June 18, 2014"
     
  5. reality1

    reality1 Well-Known Member

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    The executive order that many are now saying will not be upheld in a court challenge? The executive order that allows families to be detained together, yet now the left don’t want the juveniles detained period?

    Let’s be clear. This problem was created when we stopped enforcing our immigration laws. It got worse when we stopped deporting people. It got even more of a problem when we start giving these illegals free stuff. It became a insane when states start giving illegals the right to vote and protection from deportation. Yet you claim the crisis is when our President does his job of enforcing our laws?

    The only answer for those like you is to release these illegals, the entire family, into our society effectively opening our borders to any family wanting to come here. Sorry, I don’t support that and neither do our laws.

    Secretary Nielsen told everyone what is broken and needs fixing via Congress.
     
  6. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump really screwed this one up royally. All this does is incentivise more illegals and child trafficking. Another classic example of the lefties cure causing more damage than the disease. I wonder how many kids will he sold and kidnapped now just to be used as a ticket in. This is Trump strike 2 for me. One more...hes out. Congress needs to fix this not the President. He gave the dems a free pass and I find it sickening.
     
  7. WillReadmore

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    Trump took BABIES away from their parents.

    It's true that we have other kids still incarcerated from the Obama days, but those are kids who crossed on their own and for whom we do not have access to parents.

    Quite trying to blame Trump atrocities on former presidents.

    Trump is president. The issue is what is happening NOW.
     
  8. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    There has been no cure here AT ALL.

    We still have baby jails in hidden locations with a couple thousand kids Trump yanked from their parents.

    And, there is NO PLAN to reunite these families.
     
  9. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh really how many did obama yank. The number is common knowledge now. Ill await your response as well as what happened to them.
     
  10. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    There are thousands of children in jail due to immigration. However, those came almost entirely due to children crossing without their parents.
     
  11. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked....How many children did Obama take from their parents?
     
  12. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That is ENTIRELY irrelevant.
     
  13. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hahahahjajajajjajaj of course it is, only if you have completely lost your argument. Dude, I expect a higher level than that. Answer the question.
     
  14. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he states this then claims jow many obama yanked is irrelevant. FACEPALM.
     
  15. WillReadmore

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    You still don't get it.

    What Obama did was found to be illegal and thus the policy was changed.

    There were other differences in the process as well.

    For example as I've pointed out multiple times, it's not just the separation that is the problem - it's the fact that there is NO plan for ever allowing the families to be reunited.

    YOU are trying to justify Trump's humanitarian atrocity by implying that it happened at some time in the past.

    And, that is a BS argument.
     
  16. AlphaOmega

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    answer my question or we are done
     
  17. WillReadmore

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    I demonstrated CLEARLY that your question deserves no answer at all.
     
  18. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol ok...whatever. The readers with one eye can see your pathetic....and I mean pathetic dodge. Im pretty sure its not even a facebook level dodge.
     
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    The vast majority of kids being held now crossed without their parents and Trump isn't doing anything Obama didn't do first. Quit making excuses for him and blaming Trump for cages Obama built.
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    What exactly do you want done just send those kids out onto the streets? How about stopping the parents from putting tthemselves and their kids in the first place?
    And what about US citizens with children who violate the law? We can no longer incarcerate them because that would separate their families?
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    80% of the children in those centers are here unnaccomanied. Their parents sent them by themselves. How can we reunited them? As far as those in detention we know where the parent is and we know where the child is BECAUSE we have not released the child or if we have the childbia with family here. If the parent is truned down for asylum send them both back. If the parent is granted asylum they know where the child is being held.
     
  22. WillReadmore

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    You're clearly out of touch.

    There are at least 2,300 kids that Trump TOOK AWAY FROM PARENTS - kids for which there is no plan to reunite the families.


    Nothing else that is going on changes that fact.
     
  23. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    The fact that there have been children who crossed on their own does NOT give some sort of permission for the government to perpetrate a humanitarian atrocity on other families and their children.
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    We catch a 13 year old kid crossing the border unaccompanied. What are we supposed to do with them just release them into downtown LA? Tell me what do we do? And again is it a humanitarian atrocity when we separate a US citizen from their child while they are being detained for legal reasons?
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    This is NOT an excuse for perpetrating a humanitarian atrocity.

    I really don't get it.

    Since when did the right wing think it was OK for the government to break up families on a PERMANENT BASIS when there hasn't even been review of the case?

    Is this how you would treat citizens? Remember that most of our constitution applies to individuals, not just citizens.

    Is this how you would treat Canadians?

    You're living in a bigot's fantasyland here. And, I really hope you recognize that and move away from that position.
     

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