Turkey Will Attack US Kurds In One Week If They Don't Withdraw

The "US Kurds". The corporate state requires more wars and arms dealing.

 

I suspect, though cannot prove, that the US has zero friends in Syria. The Syrian government is not our friend, the Syrian rebels (ISIS) sure as hell are not our friends, the Russians are not our friends, Erdogan is sure as hell not our friend, and the Kurds, as much as they might want and need our help, are not really our friends, either, since they are Sunni Muslims. About the only natural ally we might have had in Syria was the secular dictator Bashar Assad, and Obama ****ed up any possibility we might have had of forming an alliance with him. I see no way of "winning" in Syria for the US, but the objective of keeping Turkey, ISIS, or Russia from "winning" keeps us involved.

 

What does the Kurds being Sunni have anything to do with it? I mean that's the #2 religion in America after Christianity. lol

 

Islam is fundamentally incompatible with Western Civilization, and that fact you quoted should make you tremble with fear. Any other religion should be more welcome in the US than Islam.

 

Islam is Christianity without the Roman bits.

 

Another thing that keeps us there, perhaps more importantly, is that we are doing as Israel wants us to do. We want Syria defeated and destroyed so that Greater Israel might be accomplished.

 

You obviously know nothing about Islam. Read this analysis by a Danish psychologist who attempted to treat criminal Muslim teens in Denmark:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/63122/sec_id/63122

The intro is just as interesting.

 

The Q'uran unlike the Torah and Gospels was written by a single man and thus can more reliably be tied to contemporary history and used to interpret Muhammad's beliefs. Muhammad was from a nobel family living in Mecca. They were Jews/Christians (Muhammad the latter) and thus were prosecuted by the pagan rulers of the city. 1 day he went out into the wilderness to meditate where he was approached by Gabriel who informed him that Yahweh was displeased with the direction Jesus' followers had gone. He was then, with Gabriel being the message boy, given a message by Yahweh which he wrote down. He then began to gather his friends and preach a reformist Christianity that abandoned the pagan and secular (as in Roman politics) influences and returned to a strict following of Jesus' teachings and Mosaic Law.

The only difference between Muhammad and Martin Luther was their ethnic background. If Muhammad had been Italian instead of Arab, Islam would be a Christian sect today.

 

You're so full of ****, I don't know where to begin, but let's start with the obvious: Martin Luther never slaughtered hundreds of people, never called on his followers to slaughter nonbelievers, never wrote a hate- and violence-filled tract, never said God allowed him to do what he banned his followers from doing, never called for death to the Jews, never ****ed a nine year old girl, never said Jesus wasn't the son of God, never said breaking your oath or lying to a judge was okay, never approved taking slaves in battle, never approved taking the wives and daughters of those killed in battle as sex slaves, never called for chopping off the hands of thieves, never called for adulterous women to be stoned to death (Martin Luther was surprisingly enlightened when it came to women's rights), never said that a raped woman had to have four men testify that she was raped or else be stoned to death for adultery, and never claimed to be the "comforter" Jesus said would come after him. Mohammed did and said all these things. Islam is the second-most vile, hateful ideology known to man, behind only communism in its murderous consequences. Islam's death total is actually higher than communism's, but it had a 1300 year head start. Communism killed 100 million people in less than a century. Islam has killed 270 million in 1400 years. And that's non-Muslims. The infighting between Shia and Sunni may be just as bloody.

https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

 

What is your perspective about Turkey's aims in Operation Olive Branch? There's been a huge amount written about it, but analysis as to the motives and reasons are, as usual, very think on the ground.

 

We have more than 3 million Syrians in our country. Now their lands has being stolen by PKK - Kurdish terrorists.

And Yys we have right to enter Syria and we have right kick all those terrorists out since we have 900 km border with that region and PYD/PKK and ISIS are all terrorist for Turkey. No difference.


Syria was never an American state. You have no cultural or historical ties with this region. We have 3 million Syrian refugees in our country and their lands will be given back.

 

During history we fought against to Austria/Habsburgs, Hungarian Kingdom, Iran, Russian Czars and many others but today your terrorist pkk / kurdish toys.

We really lowered the tone !!! This morning Turkish jets hit Afrin again and 311 terrorists were cleaned. And you are so funny. You advocate them too much since you have Kurdish origin or your boy friend is a hairy Kurdish man. this is understandable, love is an important matter!

Whatever your toys will be wiped out from Afrin. We will rebuild there and Syrian refugees will turn their homeland.

Btw We actually like Americans but you have backtabbed us, you betrayed us.

Anyway

Regards from Istanbul
And kisses :*

 

Footnote:
Iranian, Turkish and Russian leaders will meet in Istanbul. We will act together soon then it will be time to say goodbye for USA in Syria Your are at other side of Ocean and Syria is not your business.

You should focus on North Korea and immigrant issues

 

I think we are able to get well above a million soldiers ready to fight in less than 10 days in case of declaration of "state of siege" for any war purposes. And if there's going to have to be any invasion taking place in Syrian soil by Turks, "THAT" army will sure be responsible for it.
So, are you sure those 10 thousand gypsies I see in that picture are going to take on "THAT" Turkish army???
Or do you just mean to say they are just preparing to ""try"" ambushing Turkish backed FSA forces in the cities of Afrin once they rolled in?
Here's the formula to make sense: Think before you speak...

Now Jiji, I got news for ya:

Shortly before the Russian jet was downed in Idlib, the biggest military convoy "ever stepped in Syria" has just got attacked by the Russian backed SAA factions. It was an official Turkish military convoy and was being deployed to its predetermined mission location in Idlib (Al Eis). There are few official de-escalation zone mission locations of Turkey that were officially recognized by the Russian side. The other one I recall is Taftanaz.

Now I don't think it is so hard to guess who might have been informed by Turkish Armed Forces through "official communication lines" before the arrival of the Turkish military convoy ABOUT ITS "ROUTE"... But I'll still let you know who: The Russian officials !

What's more interesting tho is our tank got destroyed in Afrin by an anti-tank missile. How do you like to get a hint of the origins of that missile? Would be my pleasure: It's a Russian-made 9M113 Konkurs !!!

I know you would only know to cry about it but I think this may be the THIRD hole opened up right on our back by the BACK-STABBER strategies of our dear Russian friends.

Of course just like the ones before, this wound too will eventually encourage us to take "HARSHER" steps, even if they cost us turning the entire region into a big fckin hell hole... Because you know, if I can't get a hold of the YPG/PKK occupied chunks -backed by bunch of Russian/US officials- threatening my life there, why would I not let the motherfkin world burn? I die either ways... Helloooo...

So you either snap the fck out of it or watch me suicide-bomb the sht out of the entire region with yall in it. That's where Russian/US double game has been pushing Turkish strategy towards... Simple as that !

 

The angel of darkness can appear as an angel of light, and it seems to have been the case with Mohamed. The Quran from what I know is exceptionally beautiful and the verse is mesmerizing in Arabic - and this is why verse has always been satan's favorite tool. Mohamed actually didn't add anything to the 'revelation' of God that was to us with Jesus Christ.

Instead the Quran went backwards and to the lesser knowledge which existed among the Jews before Christ's advent - and then it was twisted. Islam does take some of the moral aspects given by Moses. It also takes some of the outward aspects of Christianity such as humbling oneself by prostrating before God. But by combining religious faith with a political triumphism, Islam emphasizes a pride and self love that is akin to 'pagan' nationalism and therefore is the antithesis of Christianity. Christianity in contrast, is based on individual perfection of a person's heart and soul. This way they can become more like our Creator God Who consists of Pure Love, and by being so, enter into His Realm/Dimension.

Don't get me wrong though. This has nothing to do with Muslims as individuals, whose hearts and souls can be much purer than that of most Christians - as you can tell from our actions.

 

My point is that there isn't anything inherently incompatible with Islam and the West. If I thought Islam was on the up and up, I'd be a Muslim.

 

There are different objectives here. This is the way I see it:


Syria

To retain its sovereignty and territorial integrity and to restore its economy and rebuild Syria.​

Russia

Help Syria restore and retain its sovereignty and territorial integrity, and help in its development.

To maintain the Shia Crescent that separates its Sunni populations on its southern flanks from the Gulf extremists.​

US

Grab the oil and gas rich area of Syria and create an Israeli friendly Kurdistan, thereby leaving Assad without funds to rebuild his country.

Create a passageway for Kurdistan pipelines to the Mediterranean.

Create a Kurd barrier between Iran and Damascus, and between Russia and the Shias.

Break Russia's gas monopoly to the EU.​

Turkey

Eliminate the Kurd threat near its border..

Get rid of Assad and establish a Sunni government.

Install Turkmans from Central Asia along the border and Eastern Euphrates - which would include Aleppo, as well as the oil and gas rich areas of Deir azzor and Raqqa. Through ethnic cleasning and deceptions, the Turkmans will become a majority, and then Erdogan will be able to use it as an excuse to annex part of Syria and rebuild his new Ottoman Empire.

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Israel

To use the Kurds to separate Syria from Iran, and to have an easy access to oil and gas.

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I think you've just touched on Russia's real reason for supporting Assad's regime. Poor Russia would really be hurting without that little monopoly you seem to think they should have.

 

Cinnet is in wonderland... Lol...

Really? Where do you get these fairy tales from? Kremlin Pop-Art workshops? ahahah....

What the hell are Russians doing in Latakia then? lol... Have you ever thought what Latakia might mean in Russian language? Should be something like a stolen property by Russian mafia blackmail methods : )))

Here's what it means in Turkish:



P.S: Blue spots are Turkmen population that have been living in and around Latakia for centuries.

Source: Wikipedia.

If Assad ever wants to rebuild "HIS" country, all he needs to do is to go to Kremlin and kiss some more of that ass to get some money already stolen out the pockets of millions of innocent Syrian tax payers and then start building "a country" around Damascus, where he has "somewhat" control over the lands...

Oh, please tell him to watch for those Israeli fighter jets while he's on rebuilding because man... them Israelis are bombing like crazy even when Assad's dear friend Putin's super-duper S-400s are ON and watching out incoming threats like hawk's eye you know...

I guess the only Israeli friendly deployment in the region -insofar as proven- is the Russian air defense systems : (

Oh yeah? America wants that while its main proxy Israel has already had an agreement with the Cypriots and Greeks to be that "passageway" ? Funny...

Aside from those sweet dreams you obviously got indoctrinated by the KTF (Kremlin Troll Factory), the reality we have here in the region is so different. America had given up the littlest hope -if it had any at all- back in September 2015 when Khmeimim base in Latakia became functional. Euphrates had always been their border line... Manbij and Afrin are "bargaining chips" for Turkey had they any plans to cross the river. Yes, with 100s of think-tanks focused only on foreign policy and war tactics, America may be the only state in the world that is very well capable of developing such strategies years ahead. And unfortunately Russia got nothing to match especially when it comes to handle stuff in conflicts at overseas... Know your enemy first...

Well, honestly, you'd have made some sense if you'd said something like:

Kurdistan as to;

a- Block entry and infiltration of Iranian Revolutionary Guards to Syria in order to cut their support for Hizbullah against Israel
b- Prevent Iran from building up further influence within Syria to undermine US goals.
c- Have a pro-western society with western-like institutions in the middle of the Middle East to form a true role model to similar tribal factions scattered across the region. Because Turkey obviously can "no longer" function as that role model that it was once tried to be made. Thanks to Russia... Seriously... They are the best of filling in spaces the American "vacuums" create... : )

Wayamin... Is that a score? But the threat is not "The Kurd"... You were close this time but sorry no score...
The threat is called YPG/PKK, part of which was once wanted to get hold of by Russia in order for use of "bonus land grabs" at the Turkish border, but damn... Got to give up on that too soon there as Turks were raining upon them like hell... So that threat entirely ended up as an "American proxy", yet the Afrin faction was abandoned long ago...

Wrong... The anti-Assad stance is Erdogan's only bargaining chip left against the nationalist clique who are seriously impatient to get a bigger share of the government that is seemingly run half-and-half by a "coalition". That coalition got nationalist cliques of two sorts. If Erdogan leaves his Anti-Assad stance a bit then it is beginning of the end for him because Russia would then be attempting to dominate the entire Turkey's Syria policy through the use of so-called "legitimacy" of Assad the Turkish government "officially recognized". I'm sorry but Turks are not that stupid. Some Pro-Russian nationalists think Erdogan should start an official rapprochement with Assad because they owe Russia for the pressure it put on Erdogan back in 2013 with various types of blackmail dossiers which finally managed to brake up years long partnership of Erdogan with Gulen and eventually let them out the prison. Those Pro-Russian nationalists are all good patriots. I believe they are from the bottom of my heart but I also know they are too emotional. I understand their feelings, they've been through a lot. They were given tons of sh.t by pro-American FETO cliques for years because they were all anti-NATO at a time they should not have been so. They got every right to be going against the west and NATO for the sh.t they have taken, and to side with Russia too. But having ended up owing favors to Russians just because there were Russians when their feelings were hurt by Americans? We don't live in Hollywood movies. Enemy of my enemy is NOT always a friend. In fact, if you live in this sort of neighborhood where your enemies have come from a long way to fight, chances are they see you as the "enemy" as you hold the "home advantage" and see each other as that distant friend who is the "enemy of my enemy" and sign a pact against you... Which is what exactly happened in Syria...

If you are Iran, fck the balance to some extend, who cares... But if you are Turkey that balance is required as hell... You just can't "OWE" favors to either of the snakes...

It makes me real sad to see when there's nobody but you having to try with the replies. I appreciate the effort and time you put every time but they are just all too weak in context man... Sorry... : (

Now, you know what this is?



That's the flag of the Turkmens of Syria... Yes jiji, they even have a "flag" representing their ethnic background. They are almost 3.5 million, spread all across Syria. How? Because for centuries Syria was Turkish. It used to be known as "Al Sham". Turks still call Damascus today as "Sham".

Russian propaganda should not be this cheesy... It's becoming even more pathetic : )

Turks have been majority in tons of many towns across Syria, including Manbij. There's no need to "cleanse" anywhere to become majority.

Blue spots are where Turkmens have been living in for ""CENTURIES"":








Now it's your turn to show me where RUSSIANS are the majority...

And then we will get back to these:

"Shortly before the Russian jet was downed in Idlib, the biggest military convoy "ever stepped in Syria" has just got attacked by the Russian backed SAA factions. It was an official Turkish military convoy and was being deployed to its predetermined mission location in Idlib (Al Eis). There are few official de-escalation zone mission locations of Turkey that were officially recognized by the Russian side. The other one I recall is Taftanaz.

Now I don't think it is so hard to guess who might have been informed by Turkish Armed Forces through "official communication lines" before the arrival of the Turkish military convoy ABOUT ITS "ROUTE"... But I'll still let you know who: The Russian officials !

What's more interesting tho is our tank got destroyed in Afrin by an anti-tank missile. How do you like to get a hint of the origins of that missile? Would be my pleasure: It's a Russian-made 9M113 Konkurs !!!

I know you would only know to cry about it but I think this may be the THIRD hole opened up right on our back by the BACK-STABBER strategies of our dear Russian friends."

Because... We just can't let these lousy Russian BACK-STABS ignored here on this forum !!!

 

I think the problem is that Erdogan has said too many words.

 

Our patriotic Turkish friend @goody becomes more and more hawkish as the Turkey's operation against Afrin slips. Three weeks passed and what? A couple of border villages were captured. Erdogan's dreams about great sultanate will not bring you anything apart from new troubles. Feeling his powerlessness Erdogan again hits stealthily - the same as in 2015 the Turkish fighter shot down the Russian bomber which even wasn't armed with anti-aircraft missiles. Now the target was the low-flying Su-25, and again - the rebels, several videos from several points... But you know what, Goody? You gonna lose again. Erdogan is barking on Russia while the USA establish the new large Kurdish state on the east bank of Euphrates. When they succeed Turkey will have much mooooooore troubles with Syrian Kurds. And whose fault? Your own.

 

@goody don't you want to show us the map of Kurdish popultaion in Turkey? It would be quite interesting, wouldn't it?

 

North of Raqqa, I'd say everything NOT blue. lol

 

Actually Russia told the EU that gas will become short in a few years, and the prices will start to rise so they will have to take it into account and figure out what they're going to do.

I don't know if Russia's survival is dependent anymore on its pipelines since it's now more self sufficient, (thanks to the sanctions and its counter embargo on EU products), but it was dependent on the Shia crescent at the time it entered the war in Syria. Russia had fought two wars to protect its pipeline in Chechnya from the Gulf extremists at the cost of thousands of men, so it was no joking matter to them.