Twitter Suspends mRNA Inventor Dr. Robert Malone

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  1. Giftedone

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    Who said he was ? One does not have to have invented Physics .. to have expertice in Physics ? Way more an expert than Fauci but more importantly .. has not lied his face off like Fauci and the Biden Clown show.

    So no excuse for his multiple lies .. falsehoods, misrepresentations. and I don't have to know anything about what Fauci did in the past to recognize his lies. .. complete non sequitur on your part. .. fallacyland .. one after the other .. in desperate attempt to avoid the fact the Fauci Biden Clownshow has been spewing falsehood and false narrative .. of whicy you have been given 2 examples .

    The right media did not claim otherwise .. ?? Who is the one spouting "fake news" and falsehood. To the contrary the right media has been claiming this long before Fauci finally admitted it .. .

    not that you would know the difference ... having shown little ability to do anything other than fallacize and run down rabbit holes .. in desperate attempt to deflect from the Biden-Fauci Lies and false narrative - some of the worst of which I have yet to mention. .. in one area ... where I am the "Subject Matter Expert" not Heir Fauci ..

    Your perspective of what being an expert "means" .. when it comes to complex biological systems is completely misguided .. as one can only be an expert in a few small areas of the subject .. and of this you have not demonstrated little if any conception .. so no offence .. but yes it is possible to guage your level .. from your comments on what it means to be an "Expert"

    But do let me know when you want to talk some science .. rather than engage only in name calling and other various assorted fallacy.. Subject Matter Expert at your service :oldman::oldman::strong::strong::sun::sun:
     
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    Uh no. Fauci's work on viruses is far more recent. And Fauci was the leader in that research, while Malone was just a subordinate decades ago and after that he got nothing on his resume. Fauci's Ebola 2019 vaccine was an RNA kind of thing, by the way. Malone is like an expert in computerchips form the 1980's, and got a vague clue where we currently are at.

    bla bla bla

    Right wingers themselves got a habit of downplaying the virus, and so casually not caring about underreporting to flat out denying what is reported stating even the myth that there is no virus at all. They got a thing about counting ever since they lost the elections.
     
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    As discussed .. you have no idea what the term expert means in the context of complex biological system .. and this is just a big diversion in any case .. trying to deflect from the Biden-Fauci lies

    and no Right wingers are not downplaying these lies in general.

    Sorry mate - There is no excuse for moron's who cant figure out that the posted number of cases is a fraction of reality. No excused for Biden-Fauci lies about Transmission .. disgusting pieces of human garbage they are .. stumping for Big Pharma .. now in charge of Heath Care Policy.

    Moving on to speculation - where do you think the virus came from .. The Lab ? .. Nature ? Outer Space ?
     
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    That's just your opinion. Who cares. I do notice, you're not disputing Fauci's work and that Malone got nothing else.

    lol
    https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2020/03/trump’s-tweets-influence-anti-vaxxers
    Trump supporters are more likely to believe conspiracy theories and hold anti-vaccination views

    I already put up a link proving where Fauci says that the amount of deaths are underreported, yet you keep claiming he does not. lol
    You fit the profile of a right winger.
     
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    Why would I dispute Fauci's work with Aids - and have not claimed Fauci did not state the number of deaths is under-reported. Why are you making up nonsense and projecting it onto me.

    I stated specifically what lies of the Fauci Biden Clownshow are being referred to .. "Gain of Function" Lies about Transmission.

    Red Conspiracy theories have nothing to do with the Biden-Fauci lies - you ranting on about this just a desperate attempt to deflect from from these lies - unable to deal with the fact that your hero Fauci is a Sociopath .. lies without flinching.

    Then we have these Biden Idiots .. can't figure out that posted case numbers do not reflect reality - these anti science morons making policy on the basis of falsehood.
     
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    that's my reply to your: Sorry mate - There is no excuse for moron's who cant figure out that the posted number of cases is a fraction of reality

    That's stuff you came up with by reading fakebook. Who cares.

    Of course they do. They spread fake news leading to call Fauci, who is right, to be a liar.

    the GOP are the anti-science people. I just sourced it.
     
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    There is no one more anti sceince than democrats.
     
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    What stuff I came up with ? .. just flailing around you are .. lashing here and there.. baseless accusations - unable to cope with reality.

    "Gain of Function" -- Fauci Lied ... misrepresented the Truth - the Director of the NIH admitting it was such .. that the money Fauci gave the NIH .. was for "Gain of Function" .. not that it matters .. as the type of goblin research going on was clearly just that ... regardless of how one wishes to label and semanticize. Dancing around like the Fauci Clown he is .. full on denial that funding was in any way related to this type of research ...

    Then we have the Biden-Fauci clownshow .. Lying about "Transmission" .... over and over .. in their Anti Science shilling for Big Pharma - the head of our Healthcare Policy.. Fauci's conflict of interest up the yang .. a genuine piece of human garbage .. of whom the Nazi's would be proud - his forced medical experimentation .. just targeting a group other than the Jews ... same propaganda and lies .. getting the job done.

    How many deaths could have been prevented if the Fauci clown was not demonizing Treatment .. India focused on treatment ... a death rate 700% lower than ours. Thats a whole lot of dead folks that need be accounted.
     
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    "just flailing around you are .. lashing here and there.. baseless accusations" indeed.
    You take your fake information from fakebook alright. lol

    What you claim about the NIH, got factchecked.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ied-congress-about-gain-of-function-research/

    You got it all wrong.
     
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    Who is flailing here . "Fact Checked by Wapo" .. what a laugh .. and behind a paywall so can't vet what it does say - and you certainly have no ability to do so.

    NIH acknowledges US funded gain-of-function at Wuhan lab,
    https://www.wbko.com/2021/10/21/nih...n-of-function-wuhan-lab-sen-rand-paul-reacts/

    The semantic dance of the Fauci clown was a Lie .. a misrepresentation of the facts. .. one of many .
    This pales in comparision to the Transmission lies of the Biden-Fauci clownshow .. and the demonization of Treatment resulting in an untold number of deaths. .. Disgusting pieces of human garbage these two..
     
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    Utter fake news GOP nonsense is what it is. In your link it clearly says it's the opinion of Rep. James Comer that he did. Comer who only got a bachelors degree in agriculture. That farmer has no clue what he is talking about and is just pushing through his GOP nonsense agenda.

    And it means you rather stick to right wing fake news then find something unbiased and impartial.
    There is plenty that is not behind a pay wall to be found.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...oronavirus-research-in-wuhan/?sh=3bcc54f6668e
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...anthony-fauci-did-not-fund-research-tied-cov/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/57932699

    The only ones lying is that GOP senator and it's henchmen.
     
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    Cite from your link - where your claim is supported... any moron can post a bunch of links ..
     
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    bbc:
    One of the US scientists who collaborated on the 2015 research on bat viruses with the Wuhan institute, Dr Ralph Baric from the University of North Carolina, gave a detailed statement to the Washington Post. He said the work they did was reviewed by both the NIH and the university's own biosafety committee "for potential of gain-of-function research and were deemed not to be gain-of-function".

    So you got a university, the NIH and Fauci all saying it aint so on one side, and you got your fakebook friends liking the opinion of a politician with a degree in farming opposing it.
    Well well....
     
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    The NIH says it is so.

    NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements
    https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html
    Indeed the NIH admitted to "Gain of Function Research" you complaining that the letter was sent to Comer has no bearing on this fact - a nonsensical red herring.

    This statement from the NIH is from October .. and thus supercedes the BBC from August which does not even state which research they were referring to .. differerent reseach projects were conducted .. not all may have been gain of function .. but the above research was.

    Fauci is a liar - and at the end of the day it doesn't matter if its called "Gain of function" or if the NIH was involved .. as numerous nations were involved in this research .. Fauci aware of this .. yet in abject denial of the possibility that this came from the lab.

    So not only did he lie about funding gain of function .. he lied .. feigning ignorance that this type of research was going on at Wuhan .. research that could have resulted in creation of Covid.. something he denied for months and months.

    This was a minor lie .. Much bigger lies you avoid like the plague - Transmission lies .. demonization of Treatment .. from the Biden Fauci clownshow ..
     
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    Oh is it?

    Your article reads:
    In the letter to Representative James Comer (R., Ky.), Lawrence A. Tabak of the NIH cites a “limited experiment” that was conducted to test if “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.” // In keeping with Fauci’s refusal to use “gain-of-function,” Tabak avoids the term, though the work he described matches its commonplace definition precisely.

    So it's not the NIH who admits that at all.
     
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    Well they have their answer don't they? It does. Now we have millions of dead people, trillions of dollars of damage to the worldwide economy and the person MOST responsible for this disaster not being held accountable.

    Why don't you want to hold Fauci responsible for his actions? You do realize that he may be still funding other research like this overseas and we may get another release of a deadly virus in the future don't you? This man is a monster.
     
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    Yes they did .. .. What part of Matches commonplace definition precisely .. are you having trouble understanding ? Only in the land of fantasy semantic bliss fallacy is this not admission of gain of function.. then punishing Eco-health for not being up front about the data.

    Tabak is the same fellow who applied for a grant to release

    The lie also extends to Fauci's denial that Covid could have come from the lab - when clearly he was aware that such research "Gain of function or otherwise" what ever you wish to call it - was going on in Wuhan .. not just by the US .. but by many other nations all involved in this cutting edge research.

    Lie on top of lie out of this guys mouth - Goblins at work .. by any definition.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political...vid-spike-proteins-bat-populations-using-skin
     
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    I'm not seeing it.

    Well I sourced the NIH and a university deny the gain-of-function experiments were done and that others aren't applying the right definition
     
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    That's your opinion, parroting a politician. I flat out quoted that gain-of-function wasn't even mentioned by Tabak. It's just being assumed that how Tabak described it, that it means they did that. The assumption made is wrong. I sourced that. While your source doesn't say the NIH admitted it. You're free to quote where it says they did. But you've dropped the source and hopped to the next.

    right... skin-penetrating nanoparticles. Covid doesn't work like that. What a load of utter nonsense. But thanks for the laughs.
     
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    He did not have to say "Gain of Function" for it to be "Gain of Function" - he described an experiment which met the definition perfectly.
    and it matters now what we call it .. the research described was work on coronavirus .. including transmissibility to humans - and the various other experimentation going on at Wuhan .. that Fauci was aware of -- many nations working on this technology .. Wuhan being one of just a few labs in the world doing this kind of work .. many nation doing this work at wuhan. work involving increasing transmission to humans.

    Yet for Months .. Fauci spewed false narrative. claimed no possibility this came from the Lab . demonizing such ideas as "Conspiracy" .. and he lied about gain of function. funding work which fits the definition.


    "Dropped what source" ? what about "nanoparticles" where is this nonsense coming from .. never said anything about nanoparticles and dropped no source. Gain of function was admitted .. regardless of whether or not they used the term .. and laughable that you are in complete denial over what other kinds of research this Tabak Goblin wanted to do.

    Yer in denial mate .. The Biden Fauci Clownshow is a pack of liars .. the above being just one example given you .. so desperate you are to avoid the others .. of a far more serious nature. Transmission lies .. Treatment demonization and falsehood. .. disgusting pieces of human garbage is this pair .. you should choose your idols more carfully.
     
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    All you got is somebody describing an experiment. While your point is that NIH admitted to fund Gain of Function experiments. You failed to prove the NIH ADMITTED that. It remains somebody else who claims they did that at the hand of the description. And I'm not believing that opinion. It doesn't even say according to whose opinion that the definition is met. It's a joke.


    Yup it matters. And I sourced that NIH and a university who looked at the experiments say it doesn't meat the requirements needed to find it a "Gain of Function" experiment.
    So I got experts saying one thing. And you got your farmer -now a politician- disagreeing with that.
    Well well.
     
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    In admittion to doing experiments which meet the definition of Gain of Function - they admit to gain of function .. no need to use the exact words.. contrary to your nonsense assertion that they do have to use those words.

    Second .. it doesn't matter if the term "Gain of Function" was used - this red herring your desperately clinging to .. as the research described - was related to coronavirus transmission .. similar to the Covid Virus .. along with all kinds of other gain of function (or related) research going on in Wuhan .. which shows Fauci was Lying in claiming no possibility covid came out of the Wuhan Lab .. demonizing such claims as "Conspiracy Theory".

    Dirty deeds any way you slice it or dice it .. but these are just the small lies.. Fauci's little white lies .. The bigger lies you are despearate to avoid .. Transmission and demonization of Treatment . .. Evil Lies .. the latter of which has cost many thousands of lives.. Real Pond Scum the Biden-Fauci team .. human garbage of the worst kind.
     
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    Who says that the experiments fit the definition matters.
    The NIH denies it. A university denies it. Fauci denies it. These are specific institutions / experts in the field.
    You brought up a source, but you can't quote for your life who says it fits the definition in that source.
    You only got a person describing the experiment and then a quack opinion is added. It's a joke.
     

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