Twitter Suspends mRNA Inventor Dr. Robert Malone

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    Yes, risk of harm from Covid. We do not know the risk to children under 5 from Covid vaccines.
     
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    Calculation done in post 119.
     
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    It’s like Aaron Rodgers said. “If science can’t be question it’s no longer science, it’s propaganda.”
     
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    I’ve literally seen people defend their argument with articles from the onion. I kid you not! Not on here of course but I have seen it.
     
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    We know that it is lower than those in Group A.
     
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    Well, not that anecdotal paranoia. The plain fact is that the vaccines are safe and effective for the vast majority of people and the unvaccinated are dying at a huge rate while those who were vaccinated are not.
     
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    I always wondered why Taytay was so tall
     
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    Since we don’t have access to the only data that exists on the risk to children under 5 from Covid vaccines, we don’t “know”.
     
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    Who doesn't have access to this data . Do we not know how many kids under 5 have died from Covid ? Surely some nation on the planet must have kept track of this .. and kind of odd don't you think that most wouldn't both keep track of data and give access to the public.
     
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    Please read my posts. I am saying we don’t have data ON RISK TO KIDS UNDER 5 FROM COVID VACCINES. The only studies so far have not been released. Period. We don’t know.
     
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    I wonder if you will have the courage and curiosity to be tested by way of d-dimer test to discover your fibrinogen levels?

    Because of your emotional investment, and your gratitude to the snakeoil salesmen who've mesmerized you, it's not likely.
     
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    Oh, and no I’m not surprised they aren’t sharing with us because the data most likely supports your view and my view that the risk to kids from vaccination exceeds the risk to kids from Covid.
     
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    We have risk of harm from the vax to folks who have taken it. This risk of harm does not appear to discriminate between age .. so it is reasonable to assume that the risk of harm to 5-100 carries over to under 5.

    If the risk is higher to kids - my claim still holds.

    If the vax is "Significantly Lower" risk to kids by a whole lot .. my claim may not hold.

    So if you are the person deciding .. given the exceedingly low risk of harm to children under 5 from Covid .. do you vax them .. or not .. given the available information.
     
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    I get full blood tests yearly because my wife works for a laboratory. Guess what, all of my blood tests came back normal.

    Whoops. I guess the conspiracy garbage you read about D dimers and whatever medical terms you have no understanding of written by some idiot didn't pan out for ya.
     
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    The risk of harm from the vaccines does discriminate by age in some cases. mRNA vaccines are showing myocarditis in higher rates in young men for instance than other demographics.

    Based on what I know, if I had a healthy kid under 5, no, I wouldn’t vax them.
     
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    My bet is that your blood tests do not include d-dimer Walter. Prove me wrong.

    My annual tests do NOT include d-dimer. Yours don't either.
     
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    You're an intelligent and well-informed individual.

    Please explain the advantage to injecting an experimental and dangerous drug into ANY person to protect against a virus with a 99% survival rate.
     
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    Maybe you missed the part where I mentioned that my wife works for a laboratory. Which means I get FULL blood tests, yearly. Not just the standard blood panel your doctor gives you.

    Savvy?
     
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    Please explain the advantage to voter ID laws to prevent voter ID fraud that happens far less than Covid 19 deaths. I bet you support voter ID laws, huh?
     
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    I am excited to hear that this guy invented my mRNA. I wonder how I was able to live before his mRNA started making my proteins. You never stop to learn.....
     
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    :applause::banana:

    Yes . but not significantly enough to affect the assumption of rough equality -- and if anything ..this finding should worry us even more .. trending towards an increased risk over the average for young males under age of 5.

    I wouldn't let the vax near > 5 - with a 10 foot pole.. What I honestly believe - in hindsight - will be regarded as medical malpractice and somewhat gross negligence. ... I'm not the only fellow on the block that can do the calculations and make sense of the numbers. .

    This calculation has indeed been done by many mainstream experts - scientists - doctors... Such as the fellow that invented Ivermectin -- calling the vaxed "Super Spreaders" .. but .. every one really . you hear experts on NewMax .. Fox . and other non "anti Science" media outlets all tooting the same horn .. "Focus on Group B" -- Leave Group A alone .. to various degree. . and definitely leave the children out of this .. as they are at even less risk of harm from Covid .. (and we are all at very low risk of harm from Omicron in general) than Group A .. and arguably far greater risk of harm from the vax .. expecially if you factor in use over a lifetime .. "Booster 80" by the time they are 40 .. but even without this .. just on the basis of one time .. Group A is at far greater risk of harm from the vax .. as the harm from this vax is not nearly as insignificant as touted .. and likely far more significant than the data suggests .. due to bad data issues ..

    but just with data as it is .. the calculation is clear.. and the calc I did was conservative. .. numerous factors we could have considered that increase the risk of harm of the vax.. and while we only considered Deaths .. the number of "Severe" - meaning life threatening .. near death experience --and bad stuff happen to you that you may have to deal with for life .. non reversible damage .. is huge on a relative basis. Small on an overall basis .. Try comparing to ivermectin side effects ... now factor in that we didn't Treat folks with Covid in this country .. like in other nations .. such as "India" .. a covid raging inferno .. and right at the beginning when the beast was far more dangerous.

    In India .. you got a treatment kit if you got Covid .. consider that the ave time from contracting to finding way into hospital was~14 days .. 9-10 days with Omicron .. for the very few unfortunate ( South Africa now saying 25 times less nasty-- which is a number so ridiculously high I don't believe it .. but call it 10 .. that is still off the charts reduction in harm)

    In that kit was Vitimin C, D, Zinc - antibiotics (in case pnumonia develops) and .. you guessed it .. "Ivermectin"

    Death rate in India is 350/million - USA 2500/million .. Not that the treatment kit was solely responsible .. but Why the fk would we not treat for the other war .. like we normally do ?? This I don't get . and also this is where I become the subject matter expert .. well beyond the Fauci Clown .. who hasn't cracked a book relevant in his 40 year carreer .. and never had the training to begin with.

    It is the second war that takes 9 out of 10 who die from Covid .. and that which takes us all at the end of days .. and Vax don't help much with that war .. sans getting some air support back online a little quicker .. which is not much help if your troops are under supplied - under armed and the enemy is waxing them.
     
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    I guess I'm glad your wife doesn't work in the White House, eh?

    I'll bet you a candy bar that your last blood tests do not include d-dimer. Will you play? :D
     
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    I’d analogize it to dialysis. I have a pretty good chance of not dying of uremia. A person with type 2 diabetes and chronic kidney failure has a lot higher risk of dying of uremia without dialysis than I do.

    Someone in another conversation I’m involved in brought up Zantac (which was pulled due to cancer risk). Acid reflux kills around 0.2/100,000 yet drugs to mitigate the effects of acid reflux are always in the top 3 drug types used in the US. People could avoid acid reflux with lifestyle changes. But for the most part they rely on drugs instead—drugs with their own set of risks like decreased nutrient absorption and dysregulation of gut microbiota.

    My point is everything has risk. Everyone has different risk tolerance thresholds. Everyone has unique circumstances that contribute to or mitigate risk. Vaccines are a fine tool for people to choose if they wish. Just like proton pump inhibitors or dialysis. I would much prefer a systems approach to Covid, but if people want to take the easy road and put all their eggs in one basket, more power to them.

    Look, I think people have the right to snort blow and smoke crack if they want to. I’m not telling someone to vaccinate or not vaccinate.
     
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    Listen, I know you desperately want to believe that unpublished, non peer reviewed report from July 2021, but that has been thorough debunked.

    Now, if you want to show me a released report that has been peer reviewed that backs up your claims, I will admit I'm wrong.

    Until then, your conspiracy regarding the vaccines remains to be fake news.
     
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    https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT

    Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of the nine original mRNA vaccine patents, which were originally filed in 1989 (including both the idea of mRNA vaccines and the original proof of principle experiments) and RNA transfection. Dr. Malone, has close to 100 peer-reviewed publications which have been cited over 12,000 times. Since January 2020, Dr. Malone has been leading a large team focused on clinical research design, drug development, computer modeling and mechanisms of action of repurposed drugs for the treatment of COVID-19. Dr. Malone is the Medical Director of The Unity Project, a group of 300 organizations across the US standing against mandated COVID vaccines for children. He is also the President of the Global Covid Summit, an organization of over 16,000 doctors and scientists committed to speaking truth to power about COVID pandemic research and treatment.

    Make an account and just listen to it for free. No charge.
     

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