The percentage of people who get sick from covid is much higher than the percentage of people who get sick from covid vaccines.
Didnt say anything about the vax making you soil yourself .. was the acting like a 3yr old comment you made - not being afraid of doing what a 3 yr old does
Who cares .. The question is how many get seriously ill - nasty after effects up to and including death.. not how many get the sniffles. Kind of off the page right from the start mate.
Sure. I thought the conversation was about mRNA vaccines specifically. Why do you think 3 year olds aren’t getting Covid vaccines?
Because 3 year olds aren't mini adults and don't have a matured immune system. Patience, they will have their mRna covid vaccines soon. Moderna, Pfizer and J&J are currently testing them in children now.
Really, why are at least a dozen vaccines given to kids by age 18 months? Why are some given at birth? Why do we give influenza vaccines at 6 months? I’m in no hurry. So they are testing vaccines in people without matured immune systems? You come closer to the mark in this paragraph. We aren’t giving them to under 3 because we don’t know if it’s safe and if the rewards outweigh the risks.
The dozens of vaccines children take now all had to be tested and have trials as well. Wait, you didn't think that the very first flu vaccine created was given to children immediately do ya?
Depends on the demographic. If you are talking 80 year old men you are correct. If you are talking under 30 year old men vs myocarditis you'd be wrong.
Ah, the strawman. I asked you why Covid vaccines weren’t given to children. You came up with some nonsense about children not having mature immune systems. Why didn’t you just come out and say the real reason—we don’t know if the rewards outweigh the risks? It’s ok to admit.
We do know if the risks outweigh the rewards and we shouldn't be giving these to children or even to teens. I'm often shocked at how little people who claim to be knowledgeable about COVID look at the numbers. This is the breakdown for all deaths by COVID out of the 800k. For everyone under 18 years old you are talking about 655 deaths. You don't need that many adverse events to outweigh the benefits. Now if we are talking 65 plus years old, yes the math changes dramatically there. You are literally a thousand times more likely to die.
I agree for the most part. But we really don’t know the risk from vaccination in young children. I would be VERY surprised if over the long term the rewards outweigh the risks. One thing is for sure. They will be giving young children Covid vaccines regardless of the math.
The risk is far greater from the vax for children who are not immune compromised - have comorbidities. I will do a quick death calc for you .. 96% of those who die have 1 or more comorbidity .. so 4 in 100 = 40 per 1000 9 out of 10 will die of pneumonia - pnumonia succeptibility leaving 4 per 1000. 75% obesity so call it 1 in 1000. (and we have not factored in for age) so -- odds of being one of those dead people .. if you have no comorbidity-obese- pneumonia succeptibility .. 1-1000. Covid deaths so far 823K (this is super high relative to other nations .. many of which could have been prevented with treatment) Confirmed cases is 54 million .. can triple that number at least for actual cases- of which a very high number were asymptomatic .. initially it was as high as 90% .. I am using a 3 times multiplyer .. so call it 150 million cases of covid / 800,000 dead = roughly 1 in 200. K . so the chance of someone in group A dying from Covid is "Conservatively" 1 in 200,000. Dead. For death rate from the Vax ~ 7000 people -- call it 60% vaxed all 0.6 x 350 million people/7000 = 1 per 30,000 .. Dead. This is why real "Experts" say we should be targetting those in Group B (comorb-obese-immune compromises) as these are the only folks showing up at the hospital and dying in great numbers. Keep in mind that the above is with one round of treatment with this vax - double vaxed. Everytime you take another shot you risk the same harm . So when you are on booster 100 (say from birth to death) you will have incurred a massive risk of harm near 1000 times that of getting Covid "WHEN it was NASTY" Omicron is a true lightweight .. risk of harm way less than previous variations .. about equal to that of that of a normal flue ...so reduce risk accordingly .. likely by about 10 X -- having almost nothing to do with the vax - and a whole lot to do with the fact that Omicron is doing what viruses do .. more contageous .. less toxic.
My point was we don’t know what the risk to children under 5 is from these vaccines. All research is still not public. We can speculate but we don’t know. Of course I agree we should target the most at risk. That’s why vaccination should be optional. Some people are at lower risk and some people are just more comfortable with risk. Let people make up their own mind just like we let people get fat, diabetic etc. and endanger themselves and others through those behaviors.
What a nonsenes comment. Fact .. the sun might shine tomorrow giving you extra vitimin D .. giving you some protection against covid .. Fact - far more people will die from the Vax than from the Sun. You have no clue what you are talking about .. Fact - More people in Group A will die from the Vax than from Covid. Stuff that fact in your craw mate.