UK gun control failed, wants a knife ban

I've worked in the US and have visited many parts of the country. I've always had a morbid curiosity about why you choose to do this to yourselves. Just out of curiosity what has the 'size' of your country have to do with anything ?

 

Whats England gonna do after they take everyones kitchen utensils?

Are they going to confiscate work tools, like hammers next?

 

Really?

 

[video=youtube;H-gnGjt9vFk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gnGjt9vFk[/video]

 

So are you suggesting we arm rapists in order to make it easier for them because arming women doesnt seem to be working stateside

In 2010, nearly 6 times more women were shot by husbands, boyfriends, and ex-partners than murdered by male strangers.
• A woman's chances of being killed by her abuser increase more than 7 times if he has access to a gun.
• One study found that women in states with higher gun ownership rates were 4.9 times more likely to be murdered by a gun than women in states with lower gun ownership rates.

 

Is this an example of the average IQ of british people or what?

 

My My, and you survived to tell the tell, amazing. What is we chose to do to ourselves exactly? I ask because I do not know anyone that choses to have gangs committing crimes here. Many more People, things that work in small countries with different cultures do not usually work in larger ones with different cultures, you do know that, right?

 

Live in armed fear of each other and then call that .....'freedom'

Once again what does the physical size of a country either geographically or otherwise have to do with anything here ? Its not like you are still opening up the wild west and shooting Indians anymore

 

I know no one living in armed fear, I think you once again show your ignorance of Americans, I for one feel every bit as safe as I did living in Europe and far safer than living in Asia.

 

How you 'feel' about your safety in the US is not borne out by international comparisons already linked earlier

 

And there we go as usual, ignore reality and go back to comparing Apples and Oranges, circular arguments only prove you have run out of points to make. Noted

 

Yeah yeah.

Next time take it on the chin with a bit more dignity

 

Take what? I did not feel anything, is that what a Brit calls a hit, at least when my fellow Americans hit me I know I am in a fight with a Man? LOL

 

Yeah. Coz real men carry guns and shoot people

 

Some do.

 

Saying it is the lowest has nothing to do with what I wrote. The Guardian (aka: England's twin autistic brother of the disgraced New York Times) is quoting numbers that don't count shootings without convictions. That is like saying the kid with the chocolate covered face is the best behaved kid in class because you didn't catch him eating the Oreos personally.

 

Our gun crime has reduced dramatically over the last decade due to our tighter gun controls . Why this ever ongoing desperation to claim otherwise ? Why is the example of affirmative and successful gun control so intimidating for you guys ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...tle-against-inner-city-gun-crime-8463957.html

 

I never said anything about it dropping or rising. Try to keep up. I said the stats were unreliable because they only included successfully prosecuted cases. You said I was wrong and I proved I wasn't, so you are now trying to change the subject. Be a man and admit you didn't know that and were as fooled by your Headline drivel as everyone else is. No great shame in being misguided but change when you find out you have been played.

 

violent crime and murder today is still significantly lower than where it was right before handguns were banned in Britain.

 

But, but don't you see, they need all those guns in order to protect their freedom and liberty and, y'know, in case their government goes all rebellious on them. I don't understand it myself.

 

That would be hard to determine for sure since the banning process in England went on for many decades and specific stats were made to look bad before another step in the process and then made to look better afterwards. The difference is of course we have a constitution and they do not. Remember that is why our founding fathers left?

 

Sorry for staying on topic and illustrating that in no sense have UK gun laws failed. Nor have knives been banned.

Why is it so difficult for you to accept that our tougher firearms legislation clearly works and has substantially reduced our firearms deaths ? It has also been illustrated for you that all our other recorded crime has fallen too despite our lack of firearms. You seem to be having difficulties with this that are frankly incomprehensible

 

sorry bro, but since handguns were banned in Britain in the late 1990s, murder and violent crime is down significantly.

 

Please provide the post where I said either of those things. I said that only convictions are counted. I don't know how to explain it to you any more clearly so if you arent understanding this comment then have some one there close to you give you a visual example. Perhaps group together 4 blue marbles and one orange marble and pick out the one that looks different to you.

 

Sorry Mam but those stats don't exist to come to that conclusion since they aren't counting those who were shot and they're assault not convicted.
"When the final stage arrived in 1997, and virtually all handguns were banned via the Firearms Act, the promise was a reduction in crime and greater safety for the British people. But the result was the emergence of Britain as the “most violent country in Europe.”

Britain began placing restrictions on gun ownership after World War I with the Firearms Act of 1920. The passage of this act was emotionally driven, based in part on the public’s war-weariness and in part on the fear that an increased number of guns–guns from the battle field–would increase crime.

The Firearms Act of 1920 did not ban guns. Rather, it required that citizens who wanted a gun had to first obtain a certificate from the government. We see this same stage taking place in various places in the United States now, where a person who wants a firearm has to get a Fire Owner Identification Card (Illinois) or has to be vetted by police (Massachusetts) or both.

Thirteen years after the passage of the Firearms Act, British Parliament passed the Firearms and Imitation Firearms Bill, making the possession of a replica gun or a real one equally punishable unless the owner of either could show the lawful purpose for which he had it. (Sounds like California?) This was followed by the Firearms Act of 1937, which author Frank Miniter says “extended restrictions to shotguns and granted chief constables the power to add conditions to individual private firearm certificates.”

Britain continued to issue firearm certificates as World War II set in. But by the time the war was over, the gun control mindset had permeated society to a point where self-defense was no longer a valid reason to secure a certificate for gun ownership."