Ukraine ready to investigate Biden's son if Trump makes official request

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  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Independent investigators are the only honest way to investigate issues that have more than one interest.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I care and if evidence proving that allegation can be brought forth I support charging Biden with abuse of office and bribery.
     
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    Please stop telling liberals this is another nothing burger.
    I experienced great pleasure and joy from all of the liberal disappointment regarding the russia collusion hoax and I would like to experience that same feeling again with Ukraine collusion hoax.
    DON'T RUIN IT FOR ME!!
     
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    I'm all for put Biden and his son under oath, subpoena Biden's communications and call in those who were on his staff to see if they have knowledge how and when his son was enriched by foriegn powers.
     
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    So when democrats asked Ukraine to give up dirt on Trump in 2018 what was that?
     
  6. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Fine but first you need to have reasonable information that there was some rule or law broken.

    If a man and his son is spotted near a fire is that fact alone enough to arrest them for arson? The answer is no. We need to first determine that there was an arson then that they are culpable.
     
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    LOL! Nah, that is no longer the standard. Biden must be guilty of something so he must be investigated. If he has nothing to hide then he will not mind a special counsel made up of Biden hating partisans digging into every aspect of his life.

    Welcome to the new standard created by democrats.
     
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    A man presenting a case that there is a new standard must first prove that a new standard exists. It is like this: just because a man believes that the Big Foot exists tat there is a creature who alive that wears size 29 1/2 EEEEE wide size shoe.
     
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    Didn't with Trump but we have the reasonable suspicion already for Biden.
     
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    Reasonable suspicion such as Obama being born in Kenya?
     
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    Such as the payments his son received, his placement on boards and Biden's own words.
     
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    Nope Biden gets a pass they always do for some reason. The media won't allow it and the dems in congress won't allow it. It's a lawless pattern that has taken place sense the Clintons'.
     
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    Haven't they already investigated him or the company.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    You need to proove that the payments Young Biden received were illegally reviewed. If illegal was the illegality something that Ukraine had jurisdiction over? If Young Biden failed to disclose these payments from a foreign company to the IRS then it is a US law violation not a violation of Ukrainian law.

    What Biden did was stupid by the fact that he bragged like a Trump but it was in support of the G8 and the IMF.

    Furthermore when Biden pushed to fire the prosecutor Shokin who failed or refused to prosecute Young Biden was not working for Burisma yet.
     
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    The owner of Burisma was investigated for money laundering by the ................ British government. .... Remember that Burisma is based on Cypress .....
     
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    We're they reviewed, do you have evidence they were ever reviewed. On the call Trump asked them to look into it, why didn't the Ukraine President say it's already been looked into, things that make you go hmmm. Why did 3 dem senators write a letter threatening to hold funding if they didn't reopen the investigation on Trump? You see this is where the BS should end but it won't. To act like Trump did something illegal but the give Biden, Dem Senators and all the other examples a pass tells us one thing, this is partisan. As has been said many times, this whole thing started with Trump explicitly told the Ukraine President he was holding funds unless he investigated Biden. Well now we no that wasn't even remotely close to the truth, now we have to listen to you and the media constantly add words and speculation to the transcript to fit the BS the dems parroted last week. Trump was smart and put it out there to help normal people see through the speculation but it won't stop efforts to spin the narrative. Trump is the Chief executive officer and can ask or demand or speculate on any investigation he wants because he is law enforcement in this country to say otherwise is ignorant.
     
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    Wasn't that investigation started before Hunter started working there.
     
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    You have made a storm of accusations and allegations about me which are false and scurelous. You accuse me of "adding words " and that I "speculate". You did that without presenting even one iota proof or facts. That is not debate or discussion that in my opinion is trashing another member of this Forum. I suggest that you stay with the facts and present proof to support your accusations. Again that is my opinion how we should debate with each other.

    You can make all the false accusations younwant against the media or against politicians but not me or any other member here. Again that is my personal opinion.

    Trump is indeed the " law enforcement in this country" and I have not seen or heard anyone say otherwise. Yet the truth and it is a fundamental truth is that the POTUS is "the law enforcement " of this country our country. He can demand or speculate on any investigation" but being that he is the POTUS his demands and speculations are for and with those of the USA. He can ask an independent foreign country to do what he desires but he cannot command any country to do so.

    Trump ordered military aid to Ukraine to be put on hold. That is a matter of fact. Trump told Mr. Zelensky that the US has given Ukraine more assistance and help in terms of funds as per the transcript released by the WH. Then on TV yesterday he told Mr. Zelensky that the US was not getting enough in return ( I paraphrase that but their exact words are a matter of public record. Trump "requested" that Mr. Zelensky do him a favore and look into or investigate the Bidens and then Trump added Hillary and the data from the hacked DNC server which Trump alleges that is in Ukraine.

    Zelensky needs US aid to fight off the Russians so what choice does Zelensky have.

    It is a matter of public record that Joe Biden is a candidate in the Democratic presidential primary hense a potention political opponent to Trump.

    Res iPad loquitur! The facts speak for themselves....
     
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    Yes you are 100% correct that the British investigation was started before Young Biden became a member of Burisma's board. The owner of Burisma was living in the U.K. at the time the money laundering allegations against him came up.
     
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    No they dont care one little bit .
     
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    That is what needs to be investigated and that requires the assistence of Ukraine and their President said they are already looking into it. Don't you think we need to know, Biden himself admitted he extorted Ukraine with government funds.
     
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    If Biden The Joe did extort Ukraine what did he get of value in return.? Answer is nothing. Young Biden was not yet working for Burisma. There was no active investigation of the owner of Burisma by Ukraine. The British were investigating the owner of Burisma for money laundering. The owner atthat time was a resident of the U.K. Burisma is headquartered in Cypress.

    Biden demanded that Ukraine get rid of the so called Prosecuter who was not prosecuting anyone.
     
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    His son got paid MILLIONS and the investigation into the company halted. There is reasonable suspicion and Graham is working on a resolution to begin an investigation.

    So if a VP can make such demands of a foriegn leader and threaten to withhold funding why can't the President when he is making NO threat? And you guys have been crying about the Russian interference and DNC hacks for years and THAT is what the "favor" was about not Biden.
     
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    Has trump made the official request yet?
     
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    What’s Rudy’s role in this totally legist invesigation? What changed to get the money released?
     

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