(Voter Fraud) Less Than Half of Walker Recall Petitions will be Eligible

And they're just fine with fraud, obviously.
They even defend it. Excuses, and denials, how pathetic.


It's just not good enough to blow this off, liberals.
Voter ID is coming.

 

Interesting to see the right crying over isolated instances of voter fraud yet fail to mention what happened in 2004 and how Bush really won.

 

Don't even bother with that crap.

 

Of course. Anything said against the right is crap no matter how much proof you provide and anything said against the left is fact irrespective of whether there is proof or not.

 

Okay how about Charlie White?

 

And won three times even with the democrats whining and suing.

 

I live in Minnesota. The recount was thorough and transparent. Franken's margin of victory exceeded any reported or purported fraud -- even if every voter who voted incorrectly somehow voted for Franken.

 

What a shock that a liberal that is against voter ID and FOR voter fraud would claim the Franken won legally. I'm just amazed.

 

Walker will stay in office by a reasobaly comfortable margin.

 

What a shock that you made an untrue claim.

A group called Minnesota Majority issued a report claiming that "341 people had illegally voted" in the election.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575365063352229680.html?KEYWORDS=JOHN+FUND

#1, Since Franken's margin of victory was 340 votes, the only way those voters could have affected the outcome is if every single one of them voted for Franken -- a statistical improbability.

#2, the group arrived at its figure by the quite unrigorous method of comparing voter names to criminal records.

#3, as a result of #2, it soon came out that most of the people on Minnesota Majority's list were not, in fact, felons who had voted illegally. County prosecutors ended up charging only 47 people. And most of those involved people who unknowingly voted illegaly.
http://www.minnpost.com/political-a...ennepin-county-7-convictions-40-cases-pending


In a release, (Hennepin County attorney Mike) Freeman's office said, "There was no evidence of any organized effort to enable or promote this activity."


Further, things like felons voting and double-counting are not the sort of thing that can be caught through a voter-ID law. So as examples of the need for voter ID, they fail.

Summation: you're not just totally wrong on the facts, you're wrong on the meaning of the facts even if you had your facts straight.

 

That liberals invent "facts" as needed is well known. Coleman easily won the election, and then the liberal Democrat controlled recount began and continued until Franken won. How many recounts and vote changes did you have to make to change the outcome? 4, 5, 6, more?

 

The election was 11/04/2008. Franken wasn't seated until 07/07/2009.

It took 8 months to get all the cheating and fraud finished. THAT'S A FACT.

Another FACT. There is no possibility that you will live long enough for me to concede against the truth. The election was fraudulently decided and a CLOWN was put in office. Liberals best trick.

"A troll like,,,,,,,,," Your position is so pitiful that you resort to name calling. The FRAUD is obvious.

 

Personally I feel if you are too stupid or too poor to get some form of identification, then you should be disenfranchised.

 

So taking 8 months to make sure the recount was done right is a bad thing?

Never mind that one big reason the recount took so long is because Coleman's lawyers kept dragging out the process -- part of what many suspected was an effort to delay Franken from being seated.

More importantly, you do realize that lawyers from both parties were deeply involved in the recount, and nobody from the GOP side is claiming fraud, right?

Yeah, don't let the actual facts of the case get in the way. Invent your own "facts" and stick with them, despite being contradicted by reality.

But then don't wonder why nobody takes your opinion seriously.

 

Sweet. Disenfranchise the poor. Problem solved!

What about the elderly who no longer have a birth certificate -- or may never have had one?

What about people who work three jobs and barely have time to make it to the polls -- much less head downtown and get an ID?

Some form of verification is reasonable. But the voter ID laws have three main problems:

1. They threaten to disenfranchise thousands in order to prevent a handful of fraudulent votes.

2. The sort of fraudulent votes often given as examples by proponents -- felons voting, double voting -- would not be caught through voter ID. So it doesn't even solve the problem it purports to solve.

3. The sort of fraudulent votes it *would* catch are clearly not widespread. Otherwise we'd have at least *one* report of someone attempting to vote, only to find that their name was used by somebody else.

I support better scrubbing/maintenance of the voter rolls to ensure they're accurate. I do not support a proposed cure that is worse than the disease, doesn't solve the problem it claims to solve, and the problem it *does* solve is practically nonexistent.

 

Good to see I'm really bothering the hell out of you. Liberals desperately need numerous doses of reality.

 

Ah, the old "I must have hit a nerve" argument, generally dragged out when you've got nothing else left.

Think on this for a moment: I don't come to this site because it bothers me.

 

Liberals come here because deep down, they know something is seriously wrong with their thought processes. In very rare cases, an occasional liberal is saved from himself.

 

And why do cons come here? please enlighten me.

 

Yet, you utterly made that up, and so did AARP. Wierd.

I'll go..slower . You had.......no...........basis.

No, your argument was facile and hollow.

That would be good, right? Since it is believed that a whole bunch of dead people have voted?

[video=youtube;RPkYV8GUzuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPkYV8GUzuo[/video]

And? It would be smart to mark a felon's ID with the word FELON, wouldn't it?

Actually, it can. Once a name is checked, that name is checked. No same ID can use it.

Sure. But why not eliminate what one can, while limiting these incidents?

Sure it does - if one has to have an ID to apply.

Vote Fraud. People claiming they are someone else, when they're not. There were plenty of them on that list.

Or admit that your link didn't contain cogent information.

 

"Having a free ID" = Draconian to the liberweeny.

You, suh, do not understand the real meaning of draconian.

 

Yeah. Those Dems who vote more than once are - without question - the problem.

 

No I didn't. I linked to an AARP article. Here's another link:
http://www.brennancenter.org/content/section/category/voter_id

Studies show that as many as 11 percent of eligible voters do not have government-issued photo ID.

Here in Minnesota, an estimated 215,000 people either have no photo ID, or they don't have one with a current address:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/04/03/voter-id-in-other-states/

I don't make stuff up.

You made a list. I showed how the list was irrelevant. You didn't respond. I'll let others decide for themselves if your non-response was sufficient.

Voter ID laws don't do that. You're now going a step beyond. Should we maybe force them to wear a scarlet letter while we're at it?

Double voting occurs when someone is registered in two separate precincts. It's never a matter of someone voting twice in the same precinct.

Because the proposed method disenfranchises thousands of people in order to catch half a dozen.

Thus pretty much destroying voter-registration drives, and placing yet another barrier between voters and the ballot box.

No there weren't. Your list was almost entirely made up of felons voting and double-voting.

 

Why don't these "poor" announce themselves? Or do they not have mouths, legs or feet, either? These fictitious people: people who somehow have gotten to the polls without a driver's license - they use the bus, but cannot use the bus to obtain an ID; they get rides, but cannot get a ride to obtain an ID - they walk, but cannot walk to obtain an ID.

Which is free.

Sure. These people actually exist. Definitely.

 

Subby.........there is no significant voter fraud.

You have no proof that the left perpetrates more voter fraud then the right.

The American electoral college is the only significantly and consistantly unfair part of the process.