(Voter Fraud) Less Than Half of Walker Recall Petitions will be Eligible

No, you lie with statistics. Note how your pathetic liberal link attempts to lump in "those with no ID" with those with an ID without a current address".

How many without ID? one? And 214,999 without the right address? Tell ya what: you tell the people too lazy to update their ID with proper address credential to bring a current electric bill with their new address - and their old ID - and we'll talk.

Until then, AARP is a biased leftist organization in which I am uninterested, and do not believe.

I offered a video of dead people who have voted. Do you think dead people should vote?

I'm in favor.

Unless they're trying to be someone they're not.

Sure it does. I'm in favor of disenfranchising someone too irresponsible to go through the protocols needed to vote. They have to to get SSI; they should have to to vote. Period.


You're losing this argument regardless: Voter ID will stand.

Also in favor. I am against 'voter ID drives': that collects the stupid and irresponsible.

So much of it, and you cannot bring yourself to believe that voting as another name actually happens. Here's how easy it is:

[video=youtube;P5p70YbRiPw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p70YbRiPw[/video]

"I'll be back Faster than you say Furious."

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

I really don't care who is doing it; we must provide a tighter system.

Explain.

 

The FL counties in question in 04 were democrat run. THEY were in charge of the voting machines. I remember it well. That's why the rant you posted was crap.

I'm so tired of liberal lies. Not putting up with it.
This race is gonna get real ugly. See you in NOvember.

 

Al Franken is an embarrassment to your state. Glad he's not my Senator.

 

Reported. As a former mod you should know better.

If using the phrase "troll like you" is allowed, I want the mods to let me know, cuz I want to lay it on about a dozen of the worst of them on this site.

 

"Hijacking the thread"? Huh? I was responding directly to his response to me.

I've been on topic -- voter fraud -- the whole time. You weigh in with three posts, the first of which merely states your opinion of Al Franken and the other two which comment on the tone of two of my posts. None of your three posts have anything to do with the thread topic, and you say I'm hijacking the thread?

Honestly.

 

To translate Republicans "voter fruad " charges are basiccally "voter supression".

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/a-f-l-c-i-o-takes-on-voter-id-laws/

Just so there is no confusion on whats really going on!

Actuall voter fruad is less than .5% in the past 20 years. We all have a better chance at winning the mega millions lottery, getting hit by lighting, or getting attacked by a great white shark in the gulf of Mexico.

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/

Me thinks that the Republicans bring out this boogieman every two to four years to scare people after all thats what they do best. Scare people, point at whos to blame, get elected and not fix anything. Kinda like jobs after 2010, still waiting on their solution for healthcare. Lets not forget Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Lol those darn righties are funny folks

 

Why did you post this 4 minutes after I deleted the post as a mistake?

 

"Announce themselves"? WTF? How? Why? Where?

You must have missed the part where I wrote "works three jobs and barely has time to get to the polls, much less take a trip downtown to get an ID" so that they can then go to the polls.

Or doesn't realize they need an ID until they get to the polls. Or has a hard time getting an approved ID for reasons I described in an earlier post.

Being poor, without a car and overworked are not valid reasons to exclude someone from voting.

I notice you ignore the first link, which made no such distinction. And that you simply dismiss AARP for no good reason whatsoever.

Meanwhile, you provide no evidence that the problem you claim to be so concerned about is widespread.

Once again, if people posing as others in order to vote were a widespread issue, we would have lots of reports of people going to the polls to vote, only to find that someone had already voted in their name.

Where are those reports? They don't exist. From that we can conclude that, in the real world, such cases are vanishingly rare. And thus preventing them is not worth disenfranchising thousands of eligible voters.

I realize you think that being poor (and thus stupid or lazy) is a valid reason to reject someone as a voter. But it's not.

I don't accept videos as evidence; they are anecdotal, prone to being distorted, and waste a lot of time. Show me something with actual scope, like a study. Demonstrate how widespread the problem of dead people voting is.

I'm in favor of disallowing conservatives from voting. Neither your criteria nor mine are legitimate reasons to deny someone the right to vote.

Even if true, how is that relevant to whether it's a good idea?

Once again, how undemocratic of you.

 

"Scare people"...another useless meme.

And another pointless deflection, using a the liberal in-the-tank-for-Obama New York Times to back you up. Lordy, that's lame.

And the Brennan Center....which claims to be non-partisan. But not so.

The Brennan Center is named for liberal champion, Justice Willian Brennan.
It says this in it's "about us" section:

I don't know how such a progressive organization can claim to be non-partisan with a "straight face".

Look who's on the board of directors: Susan Sachs Goldman. WOW, Goldman Sachs is sure cozy with the Obama admin - one of his top contributors, in fact.

TaraAnne, I'm glad you sourced that, but it's hardly objective.
What I said about the caliber of your posting and debate skills....you just proved it.

 

My apologies. When writing a post, it's not possible to see what's happening in the thread in the meantime.

 

Lots of illegal voting in elections that the republicons won.

When Chris Gregoire and Dino Rossi came out almost dead-even for governor in Washington, Rossi got his knickers all in a twist and suggested that there had been massive voter fraud. Turns out that of four illegal voters that one newspaper could track down, three voted for Rossi on behalf of their dead spouses and one felon voted Libertarian.

 

We can only hope that enough of the tax paying citizens of Wisconsin realize that the Democrat Party and Unions are enemies to individual freedom, and vote accordingly. Governor Walker is a good man.

 

Deep. Like a bumper sticker.

 

If you think you have a .5% of getting hit by lightning, you may have more metal protecting your skull than even I figured.

 

Sure, and I don't understand what the problem is.

Where I vote...the poll workers generate an old dot matrix printer report, and it has all the names of eligible voters in the precinct. As they show up, you show your driver's license, or photo ID, then they check you off on the list. If you're not registered, you show some proof of address, and photo ID, then they do some sort of special ballot.

I don't understand why it just can't be that way everywhere. I don't believe there is significant voter fraud, and at the same time...I don't know anyone who votes who doesn't have a photo ID. I never see any homeless people at the polls. ???

The electoral college was usefull when the US was rural...and without the type of communications and media we have today...and when territories actually could avoid becoming part of the US.

If we abolished the electoral college, voters in smaller states would not be at any disadvantage whatsoever...because campaigning depends less and less on physical appearances by candidates as state responsibility for services increases.

 

#1, maybe the reason you don't see anybody without ID at the polls is because you have a voter ID law, and the people without IDs can't vote.

#2, is being homeless a legitimate reason to disenfranchise a voter?

 

Runs there mouth....LOL

 

Gotta say, love your signature!

 

Is that an insult or are you describing the Democrat Party? Corruption and conflict of interest in the Democrat Party is fairly obvious. Why complicate it?

 

One would think that voting would hardly be on a homeless persons "to do" list.

 

So your answer is "Yes, being homeless is a legitimate reason to disenfranchise a voter."

Are you aware that the recession pushed a lot of "normal" people into at least temporary homelessness?

Are you aware that homeless citizens are still, in fact, citizens?

 

Economic circumstances beyond everyones control pushed probably tens or maybe hundreds of thousands out of the loop (homeless, temp housing, change of address, etc.) It's not an effort by society or the laws to exclude them from the voting process. If some want to vote but can't, they'll just have to concentrate on getting themselves squared away. In the meantime the voting process will be there waiting for their return. In short it's not a big deal. The big deal is not having a job or income or home and so forth. You're making an argument just to argue and stew and fume. What's up with that?

 

Personally, I think depriving people of their right to vote *is* a big deal. If a proposed change happens to disproportionately disenfranchise the poor, or the homeless, or some other group for reasons that have nothing to do with actual voter eligibility, then the proposed change is flawed.

There's a reason why poll taxes and poll tests were outlawed -- because being poor or illiterate were not legitimate reasons to be banned from voting.

 

You have to have a living address so that the system knows in which county and district you should vote. This lends itself to order and honesty. People who are homeless have more important and immediately pressing issues to address than voting. To say that homeless people should be able to vote is like saying that someone careening towards a cliff should have access to a drive thru and a milkshake. It's just stupid.

PS Not saying you're stupid, just a misdirection of useful energy.