Western Bombers kill 39 civilians in Raqa.

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately there is an abundance of evidence from the Koran. Even more evidence from the actions of Islamic Caliphates from 632 until the 1920s who had a similar interpretation of what was "written in the Koran".

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.(*)

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...(*)

    2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

    [2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

    [3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

    [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

    [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;(*)

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    So you support terrorism then, sigh
     
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    So you ally your self with western terrorists who blow up hospitals schools women and children you're no different to the ppl you point the finger at
     
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    I don't support ISIS...like some people do. And collareal damage has nothing to do with terrorism.
     
  5. Esau

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    what the western armies are doing in syria, blowing up villages and families is TERRORISM but you think its called freedom fighting (protecting your freedom hahah) yeh, we hear that joke DAILY!
     
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    No. And the civilians who were killed in Belgium hadn't blown up anything.
     
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    You've merely cherry-picked. Doesn't tell the full picture.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    You talking about me editing out the introductory paragraph?

     
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    No I'm talking about in general. As I said, "THE VAST MAJORITY of Bin Laden’s public statements provided SECULAR, not religious, rationales for the New York attacks.."
     
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    All I see here is a random cut and paste job.
     
  11. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    What other form would you expect evidence of what "was written in the Koran" to be in?
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    When he sends messages intended for the western infidels, he speaks in secular terms. BUT when hes talking to the Muslims, it is filled with quotes from the Koran and Hadiths, justifying his calls to kill the Americans.
     
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    The pertinent verses accompanied by the necessary historical context (tafsir).
     
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    Russia isn't the West.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol, that is what I was going to say. Russia is one of the West's greatest adversaries. Sooooo... What the hell is the OP talking about?
     
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    I think you are condoning terrorism as you appear to have no issue with european terrorists blowing up women and childten in syria
     
  17. Esau

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    I think they are, they are the wests attack dogs, when all else fails, send in the Russians(bad cops). Basically they're the same tribe as the west. Look at a Scottish person and Russian, no difference, same tribe.
     
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    That is what the masses are being led to believe. Russia and America are basically the same thing, they play the good cop bad cop game , its what is known as white tribalism, its a Euro thing.
     
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    In geopolitics, Russia is usually in opposition to America and is often in conflict with the rest of Europe. That's why Russia isn't typically considered "Western." Culturally, it may share some similarities with the rest of Europe, but its governance and economy are significantly different.

    In short, your OP would have been more relevant if you had linked an article about something our military or some Western European nation's military has done.

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    Dude. For a guy who's always harping on about racism against Africans, you say some pretty racist things about white people.
     
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    Haha, the resident racist is here. Didnt take you long to blame whitey for all the world's problems.
     
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    The western media is video driven. Often stories do not get the same level of coverage because they do not have video. When it comes to many of the suicide bombings overseas not getting the same level of coverage as others, it has at least something to do with them happening in places in which it is not safe to have western news crews embedded.
     
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    That's very interesting, something I had never considered. Thanks.
     
  23. Esau

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    Dude, I'm white so I can't be racist and yes, Russians and Americans are the same tribe essentially. They are, in America's definition, white, European and Caucasus, a wholesome all American blend no..

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    I'm white, you gonna have rebuke me using logic, are you capable of course not, move on youngin
     
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    You can be racist against your own group. For example, Clarence Thomas definitely leans that way towards other black people.

    Anyway, while there are plenty of Americans of Russian heritage, our overall culture is very different from that of Russia. Russia's level of civil liberties is quite different, for example. We also have a vastly different economic structure.

    Saying we're the same as Russia because we both happen to be white would be like saying that Jamaica and Nigeria are the same since they're both black.
     
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    Actually that's wrong. You can't even imagine the amount of videos that are available on what's going on in the Middle East and Turkey showing terrorist bombings and other atrocities...especially towards the Kurds. I have seen them on non MSM sites. They are deliberately kept out of the MSM the same way the videos of the protesters at Maidan who were beating up the police and setting them on fire were kept out of the MSM. Later on when the Maidan police were told to retaliate, those videos were shown. The viewers though had no idea what was going on before that. It's a means of brain washing.
     

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