What country outside the US is the most promising for the average working man?

I've heard that in Saudi Arabia the government pays the people for being citizens. Try there.

 

If you can afford the entry fee, I'd agree that Finland would be choice. You are going to pay around 50% taxes. For that you get some of the best health care, the best educational system free through college, the best upward mobility chances, and a very high standard of living. It is likely the best European style socialism has to offer. You work hard, play hard, and share with your neighbors. Make sure you like winter.

 

They are better. They don't have millions of Mexicans crossing their borders (legally and illegall). Their population is mostly white, Catholic people.

 

Australia is also one of the top countries in terms of economic freedom. Climate is also great.
I've been reading Finland is now one of the most desirable countries to live but it would be the climate that holds me back. I'm not one for long cold winters.

 

That probably depends on how you define "average working man." If you mean somebody that doesn't aim for anything above mediocrity, then I'm sure there are plenty of places in Europe that will be to your liking. As far as I can tell, European culture seems to pride itself on collective mediocrity rather than promoting any kind of individual excellence of performance.

 

Define economic freedom. The biggest part of what the OP finds fault in with America is precisely that; our economic freedom. He desires a place where money is more centrally regulated.

 

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/australia

 

Can't help but ask the obvious after reading all that. If Australia's economic climate is so friendly to entrepreneurs, why then are they not producing any Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, or Mark Zuckerbergs? Seems that all the important contributions to the business world are still coming from the good old U.S. of A. Why could that be?

 

Let others do the hard work, then reap the benefits.

 

Is the CEO a man or a woman?

 

Ah, and here comes the inevitable cop out. The class warfare dogma. Interesting how such "economic freedom" contributes so little to the rest of the world. Kind of makes you wonder which system is truly more useful to mankind, huh?

 

Hostile to corporate tyranny? That actually sounds pretty good if it's true.

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That doesn't sound too bad either. Thanks for the opinion!

 

Cause the system here is so corrupt, it's way easier to manipulate the corrupt, and you get rewarded handsomely for it.

 

No, no..I'm trying to get AWAY from corporate crapitalism.

Any Walmarts in any of these dream countries? That would help define their atmosphere greatly.

 

Australia doesn't and has never had any business entrepreneurs until you look at guys like these-

Rupert Murdoch who began his media empire in Australia whilst an Australian.

Kerry Packer who inherited his media empire from his father Frank but increased his wealth by an astronomical amount by actually changing the rules of one of the most watched and participated international field sports, setting up an entirely new form of competition , and then claiming international television rights for broadcasting.

The granddaddy of them all - Lang Hancock who discovered the largest iron ore deposits in the world and then claimed mining rights. He passed his wealth to his daughter Gina Reinhart, currently the richest woman in the world, who furthered her father's fortune.

Lets look at a big one, Broken Hill Proprietary Company Limited, which began as a small silver mining concern in 1885, with a handful of shareholders. With the merger with Billiton in 2001 is now the largest mining company in the world.

Billabong clothing company, started in Australia in 1973 and is now one of the biggest surf wear companies in the world. The founder started manufacturing board shorts in his home and expanded from there. Billabong is going through hard times at the moment due to competition from Asian brands and is going through restructuring.

Boost Juice Bars.. Health drinks company which has expanded into Europe, Asia, Middle East and India through franchise.

Here's a good one, Dick Smith who started his electronic business in the basement of a shopping mall installing car radios and became a multimillion dollar business. Dick Smith Electronics became the Australia version of Tandy and many Tandy stores were taken over by Dick Smith. Dick Smith Electronics was later bought out by Woolworths (another Australian company). Tandy Electronics (Australia) was later bought out by Woolworths

Woolworths. Began as a small grocery store in Sydney and grew into an international company with a revenue of over $42.3 Billion AUD. Even Apple had a go at Woolworths as Apple objected that the new Woolworths logo resembled its own. Apple withdrew its objection in 2011.

Hey,, not too bad for a small country with only 23 million people.

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Yeah,, Australia has KMart, and American company similar to Walmart..

 

But...NO WALMARTS??? Don't tease me now!

 

Indeed. Not bad for a small time country but still peanuts compared to what America has contributed. So much for a superior economic system.

 

More to do with economic freedom than economic superiority. Naturally America should be ecomonmically superior considering its wealth and population.

Australia has just returned 21 years of consecutive economic growth, averaging 3.5% growth per year. No other developed country has ever done this.

http://www.news.com.au/business/bre...solid-gdp-growth/story-e6frfkur-1226465183237


As for economic freedom, Australia sits 3rd, while America sits 10th.

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

 

North Korea

 

yep, it's true. and there are great swathes of Australia where fast food outlets are banned. AND we have an atheist, living-in-sin, female prime minister. left wing, of course. you should move here. we need more of your kind

 

Any of them are great, you can't go wrong. Jump on the first opportunity you can.

 

Yeah, they are much freer economically speaking then the US these days. Socially liberal, economically conservative. With Hong Kong being absorbed more and more by China, they will probably be the new "Libertarian State" people quote as another major success story from the economic standpoint. But politics are a pendulum, it is my understanding that Australia is swinging towards the left now? Or am I mistaken? I get the US version of what is going on abroad so...

Woolworths is not a company I would brag about. Their customer service issues have been well documented:

[video=youtube;JaW0M6V85j8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaW0M6V85j8[/video]

See how the Australians can grow with sound fiscal policy libbers? A strong currency? Used to get land cheap in the South Pacific b/c of the USD vs AUS exchange rate, not anymore, and just since 2006, big changes recently.

 

I think we need walmarts more

I mean who knew, Walmarts being to lefties as holy water is to vampires.

 

Any place in that part of the world will give what you seek. But compared to your average country it is very hard to immigrate to any of those places.

 

See, I'm the opposite. Australia has had some pretty intense heat waves in recent years, and I'm more of a cold weather person.

That being said, I've still considered moving there through my employer.