What do Conservatives have to offer America?

In fact, modern Republican Party stands for freedom and limited govt as did Jefferson's Republican Party while 1854 Party did not stand for freedom and limited govt. Jefferson's and Madison's Party was called the "Republican Party". Liberal historians give it a different name so you won't know that Republicans and Republican ideas are the essential American ideas and that liberal ideas have no place in American ideology or in Americans founding. Make sense now?

 

You need to take a history class.

 

This party is largely irrelevant today since, 1) it was mostly about slavery which has long been irrelevant, 2) the Party was not at all about freedom and limited govt as our Founders were and as modern Republicans are. The Republican Party that Jefferson and Madison founded in 1793 was about freedom and limited govt as are modern Republicans. Do you understand now?

 

McDonalds is eliminating those jobs. The real market value of competent unskilled labor is probably between 2 and 4 dollars/hour.

 

less?? actually it is conservatives and libertarians who want less federal govt; to cut it from $4.5 trillion to $2 trillion. It is almost inconceivable that you got that backwards.

 

hard to say ship 30 million illegals home and wages would skyrocket

 

only if you want to insure that they never qualify for or earn a minimum wage. Liberals have had their way with black people. They killed love and family in the black community, sent more young men to prison that to college, and insured that 75% of black children in the next generations would be born into broken or never formed homes. It should be illegal for liberals to talk about social issues.

 

There are only 2 significant values in human history: freedom and govt. Jefferson and Madison founded Republican Party in 1793 to stand for freedom. Modern Democratic Party was founded by FDR in 1933 on the side of Marxist government. Do you understand now?

 

Actually Trump got elected because the middle class did not like Democratic trade deals shipping their jobs off shore to wipe the middle class out. Trump said he would fix it and he is doing just that!!

Certainly the liberal feels embarrassed now?

"The European Union on Thursday made one of the most significant concessions, saying it would cut its existing penalties on automobiles to zero, provided the United States dropped its own tariffs. Although the president has called for something similar, Mr. Trump said he wanted Europe to go even further."https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/business/europe-trade-auto-tariffs.html

 

It's factually inaccurate to conflate the 1793 Republican party of Thomas Jefferson with our current Republican party. The shape-shifting and intermingling between parties has created a two-party system that is virtually non-existent to what it was in 1793 and antithesis to the party of Thomas Jefferson. The Republican party is far from what the founding fathers envisioned their party would be 300 years into the future.

Contrary to what the Republican party of Thomas Jefferson in 1793 believed, that the middle man should be the center of America's economy, today is that belief in reverse. In addition, Jefferson's Republican party supported a strong state government. Today's Republican party believes in big government, nearly an autocratic government governed by one man. Today's party believes (and rightly so) that by doling out a small tax increases to people in the lower 1% of the majority of people in the country that they can get enough public/popular support to continue winning elections. In the meantime, at the opposite end of the spectrum, the top 1% of the richest 10% right on top of the pile is reaping the biggest tax break in U.S. history, one that has no expiration date such as the tax break for most Americans, it expires in 2025.

 

Or, you could pretend to have a cognizant point and actually attempt to answer the question posed to you...

 

Companies that hire unskilled workers would have to pay more.

 

When I have time. I’ve been with my kids all day, working on my daughter’s car. I don’t live in my mother’s basement with nothing to do all day but eat Cheetohs and play on the internet.

 

Conservative American values:

* Support for Judeo-Christian vales
* Free trade, free markets
* Individualism
* Defense of Western culture against socialism, communism, authoritarianism, secularism, and moral relativism
* American exceptionalism
* Individual liberty
* The rule of law (as opposed to anarchy)
* Small government
* Laissez-faire economics
* Private charity (non-governmental)
* The equality of opportunity (not the equality of results)
* A belief in God
* Personal responsibility
* A strong national defense (including a strong border)
* A literal interpretation of the Constitution (that doesn't change with each generation)

This took about 10 minutes. I may be missing some.

 

Conservatives offer a guarantee to secure the following:

1. The Constitutional Federal Republic of the United States of America
2. The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights
3. A Viable Military, Well Equipped to Defend and protect 1 and 2 above.
4. Liberty and Justice for All
5. Reverence for the Judeo Christian heritage of America
6. Resistance to other cultures which are antithetical to 1-5 above, whom would seek to abolish and replace 1-5 with an alternate totalitarian form of theocracy, technocracy, or combination thereof.

 

Well, yeah. Jefferson joined Madison to form what is most commonly referred to as the Democratic-Republican Party in opposition to the Federalists. The current party's splintered from that mix: Federalists to Whigs to Republican and Democratic-Republican to Democratic. For quite some time all favored some sort of centralization of the Federal government and the emphasis on "individual liberty" has flipped back and forth between the party's.

As to the thread it is my belief that an educated, healthy, and secure citizenry is paramount to a healthy functional country. So I do believe we need to focus on macro rather than micro as most have in the thread. Our macro practice is creating much of the issues for example, how competitive should our markets be? Is our current vertical anti-trust policy serving us?

I could care less what position on the spectrum dialogue is initiated to address that question as long as there is a dialogue because on issues of our basic practice--policy-- both party's appear to have morphed into one party.

 

I would bet that that is exactly what they teach in their so-called History classes.

 

What do Conservatives have to offer America?
Prosperity and freedom, things the socialists want to destroy.

 

The party Jefferson and company created was called the Democratic-Republican Party. Later shortened to the Democratic Party. In Jefferson's day he was on the side of liberals with the conservatives being the Federalists, which included people like John Adams and Alexander Hamilton.

With the successes of the Democratic-Republican Party, from Jefferson to Hamilton to Monroe, the Federalists faded into history. By the time of Jackson the Democrats had been in power for so long that they had become the conservative party. The Whigs then emerged as the liberal party. They eventually merged with the Union Party to form the Republican Party. At the end of the Civil War the Republicans were liberal and the Democrats conservative.

Teddy Roosevelt was the first national politician to self identify as a progressive. Yet by time he came to power, the forces of big business and wealth (the right-wing) had began to take over the Republican Party. This left Wilson and then FDR, as Democrats, to push forward the progressive agenda Republican Teddy had begun.

In the sixties, as LBJ was getting passed, his civil rights legislation, and his great society ideas, drove conservatives from the Democratic Party. As the Republicans tried to boost their numbers by appealing to the evangelical crowd, they drove liberals from their party.

This is where we now find ourselves, the Republicans, conservatives, the Democrats, progressives.

 

Yet blacks tend to be poorer, less healthy, less educated, more prejudiced against, and more likely to be imprisioned in thickly conservative states.

Yet your post wasn't about the plight of blacks, was it?

 

Jefferson's party was at first called The Jeffersonians, Jefferson essentially being an Enlightenment philosopher. When officially formed, the political party was called the Democratic-Republican Party. It was later shortened to the Democratic Party and has a continuous history with the current Democratic Party. The Republican Party wasn't created until just before the Civil War when the Union Party and the Whigs joined forces to end slavery and promote other liberal ideas, such as women's suffrage.

 

Exactly. No deals just another Trump mess.

 

Nope. If you are claiming that currently the Republicans stand for freedom and the Democrats stand for Marxism then your are really off the proverbial rocker.

And you probsbly don't understand Maexism any better than you understand freedom.

 

Ok, have a nice day.

 

sure, look at tax cuts, free trade negotiations, supreme court nominees, opposition to Obama care. all conservative limited govt all 100% opposed by Marxist Democrats. And just Trump a man who is barely conservative. Now does the liberal understand the obvious?