What exactly has this president done to you personally that deserves your disdain?

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Well . . . at least they do have a hobby.
     
  2. hseiken

    hseiken New Member

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    I'll admit I haven't read the thread yet, but when you put it into this box, I don't think anyone will have anything to say.

    THAT BEING SAID, on a personal issue, I feel for the country's future safety after his doubling down on foreign drone strikes but that technically hasn't affected me. Nor has his ridiculously tiny presidential pardons of law offenders behind bars that haven't been released due to changing of laws that imprisoned those people. Again, I know these things don't affect me personally, so I'm not putting them out there as such, but they're worth noting for people who don't participate on the forums and are very real issues that do affect real people.

    Now to read the posts...this oughtta be good. :)
     
  3. hseiken

    hseiken New Member

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    if you're looking for higher class of intelligence, Free Republic isn't the way to go. I also don't suggest Debate And Discussion of Something Awful because your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing head would literally explode. Yeah, they're factual based over there, so you would definitely not fit in.
     
  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given the stipulations listed.....uh......Nothing.
     
  5. hseiken

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    Which is most people's answers. Obama hasn't come and taken (*)(*)(*)(*) from anyone. But he's somehow a tyrant. I'm still trying to figure out the logic required to come to that conclusion when he's not done anything but continued trends set by his predecessors....
     
  6. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    Well, when you ask the question like that, it does seem kind of odd the amount of rhetoric he has received. It's almost as if there is another stimuli that is present that is not being accounted for.

    I mean, what could it be....he's called a "tyrant", "boy king", "messiah", "Marxist", "socialist", and then "Bush 2.0".
     
  7. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Barack Obama, through his business hostile posturing created an atmosphere of uncertainty and fear amongst the business community. This atmosphere was solely responsible for the hiring and capital strike staged by most businesses, and this hiring and capital strike ended up costing me as much as a quarter million dollars. In specific, Obama's stimulus program and the Dodd Frank act evaporated whatever credit was available. Obamacare, which nobody even knows what is in it, even today, changed all calculations for determining whether a company should expand, and companies are still relucctant to hire leading to a persistent 10% or higher real unemployment rate. Less people working means less people willing to buy my services. Barack Obama attacked the Chamber of Commerce and the IRS began harrassing them during the 2010 election which further heightened animosity between the business community and the President. And of course, his "You didn't build that" statement may be the most economically damaging thing that came tumbling out of the mouth of a doltish president in the history of the galaxy.

    Even though Obama cost businesses a lot of money, I still do not have personal disdain for him. I truly believe he believes he is doing what is best for the country. However, he is naive, ignorant of hpw businesses actually work, he surrounds himself with sychophants who are ignorant of even basic economic principles, and all this is compounded by his arrogance and his condescension to the point where he is incapable of learning from his mistakes. He is grossly incompetent and should never have been given the job in the first place. Being a boss, I see a lot of incompetent people flailing at their jobs. I feel bad for them and the kindest thing that can happen is to let them go.
     
  8. YouLie

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    I lost my job as a direct result of Obama's failure to LEAD and get a budget passed. The company I managed provided "solutions" to law enforcement. The well dried up after the stimulus. No budget, no money for "solutions" for law enforcement. It was all for drug enforcement. First the stimulus took money away from enforcement and gave it to prevention. Then no budget to pay for more stuff for enforcement.
     
  9. MisterMet

    MisterMet New Member Past Donor

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    Mr. Irie, The majority of those jobs created are part time. And the full time ones are low paying. The average household income has come down drastically, continues to come down, and prices are rising. This is a recipe for disastor.

    Just because the economy is not losing 100's of thousands of jobs does not mean things are going well. I am not sure why you keep pointing to an economic crisis as if it is some bar to be measured against?

    I am sure you and I could have a great debate until we're blue in the face about what caused that great economic meltdown. One will be pointing to long term policies of government pressured low credit standards and government gaurantees on loans, while the other is pointing to unregulated bankers reomoving the risks of their loans by pooling high risk loans and selling them off to unsuspecting investors with a AAA rating attached. And on and on and on with about a hundred different aguments on the subject. But that was years ago, at some point we need to look at now, and decide if what is going on now, is what we want our economy to look like.

    Listen, I know that the music stopped playing when a Republican was in office. We have to own that whether its fair of not. But, at what point can we start raising the economic bar for this administration? Are we supposed to sit back and say "oh well, this is the new normal. Shi11y jobs, low hours, low pay, no growth. But, at least we're not going thru an economic meltdown?" Is there any boom in this country's future with this guy, or someone like him, at the helm?
     
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    He has an African father, the evil swine!
     
  11. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Pretty bad when the only way of defending him is by trying to make people point out how he failed them in their personal lives.

    All those failures on a professional or National level are apparently not justifiable.
     
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    OK. Let's keep it simple and speak to the big stuff.

    Motor fuel prices have doubled since Jan. 2009.
    Electric rates have doubled since Jan. 2009 here in the Midwest. I am told they will double again by 2016.
    Food prices are much higher since Jan 2009.
    My income taxes have gone up since 2008.
    The manufacturing sector in the Midwest has never recovered one iota.
    EPA regulations have increased dramatically.

    That's a start.
     
  13. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and that litany of woes is true of most citizens of this nation since Obama entered office. The cost of everything has skyrocketed and yet wages are flat . . . and it's still damn difficult for the average person out of work to find work.
     
  14. Johnny-C

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    President Obama's greatest perceived offense, is being bold enough to run for President and winning (as a Black man).
     
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    "President Obama's greatest perceived offense, is being bold enough to run for President and winning (as a Black man)."

    Taxcutter says:
    Absolutely false. His being black has nothing to do with galloping inflation (and the government denying the obvious), and explosive growth of tyrannuical government.
     
  16. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Zzz.... Always those who love to play "victim".... claiming victimhood on behalf of others.

    Why is the left so obsessed with race?
    Rhetorical, since we all know it's the only defense left.
    Disagreement = racism.
     
  17. Johnny-C

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    That has very little to do with President Obama in reality.

    Here is a snapshot of what's real:
    View attachment 23107
     
  18. GlobalCitizen

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    In 2009, when I was in Afghan, the POTUS publicly announced a surge in our troops there. We had already been "surging". But the day after he made this announcement, attacks on us were increased dramatically. Before his announcement, we would sometimes go a week or 2 without a mortar or rocket attack at Kandahar. From the day of Obama's announcement, until I left, these weeks without a rocket/mortar attack were over. I never experienced another week without an attack. In fact, there was a period immediately following his announcement of months in which all of a sudden we were getting alarm reds 2-3 times a day. In other words, our enemies directly responded to the POTUS's words, on that day. Obama had no reason to announce this surge (that wasn't political). He could have just ordered it, and then we surged. His announcement directly affected my safety, as well as everyone else on that base.
     
  19. Gatewood

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    Yes, but the problem with giving Obama a free pass regarding responsibility is that then one has to also issue one to G.W. Bush and to Clinton and to G.H Bush and to Reagan and to Carter and to Ford and to Nixon and so forth and so on. So it's probably best simply to either blame everything bad that happens during a presidency on that president or never blame any president for anything . . . ever. Fair's fair.
     
  20. Johnny-C

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    Some of us know how to face reality... though unpleasant, uncomfortable and inconvenient as it may be.

    Having a Black person as President of the United States of America, has been one of the most revealing political occurrences this nation has ever known.

    There will be very large chapters in history books about THIS era. That is for certain.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Lol... your answer to a claim of "Since Obama entered office" is to post a chart ending in '07 !??!

    Brilliant.
     
  22. Johnny-C

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    He is IMO doing an outstanding job of presiding-over a messy collection of 300+ million of HUMAN beings; as well or better than others could have.

    He's a TRUE leader, like him or not.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Your 'ignorance', has just prompted me to place you on "ignore".

    Bye. :)
     
  23. Gatewood

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    No he's merely a president. A true leader leads and inspires. He does not deliberately divide and point the trembling finger of blame in every direction but his own. Obama is a bad president. There have been worse presidents to be sure but there has NEVER been such an over-hyped president who became such a dismal failure after taking office.
     
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    Zzz.....
    Your reality is yours alone.
    We already know you love to play victim.
    I'm sure every aspect of your life is "unpleasant, uncomfortable and inconvenient", as you claim... because you insist on finding reasons for it.



    Oh, I couldn't agree more.

    The most revealing, as predicted by the Right in '08, was how it is no longer OK to talk bad about a President's performance... because now that makes you racist.

    Just like when all the minorities talked bad about Bush..... right ?
    Just like it will be with the next white president...... right ?


    ffs
     
  25. Johnny-C

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    I think we must disagree on the significance of his performance. So be it.
     

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