What, if anything, will Repubs do to insure or uninsure Americans?

They're not money grubbers for trying to stay afloat as a for-profit business, and 0-care has increased costs for insurance companies considerably.

 

any of it

 

Obama's job was to clean up Bush's mess and get the economy back on track and he did just that, he passed the country off better then he got it, something I hope Trump does as well

 

Is he saving it all for his last week in office? I don't recall any from the last 94 months or so.

 

Hah, if Obama is you're barometer you will be beyond pleased with these next 8 years.

 

I was never a fan of nationalizing RomneyCare, and would have preferred to achieve universal coverage for Americans by incrementally lowering the Medicare eligibility age, thus eliminating the huge annual taxpayer subsidies for employer-administered plans (whilst relieving private businesses of the government-imposed administrative burden), cutting out the bloated middle-man parasites with all the enormous executive salaries, profit margins, payrolls, commissions, marketing, advertising and other ad-ons - although I would in no way restrict their continuing to offer "boutique" plans for those who desire and can afford them.

Thus, anyone who finds involvement with our government of, by, and for the people to be ideologically anathema could privately purchase their coverage, if they and their family members are deemed to be insurable, directly with a private for-profit insurer in a show of pure capitalism - an option eminently available to the malcontents now, but one they seldom actually embrace.

However, my interest at this point is what the ACA wrecking team will do about the 20,000,000 Americans who would be suddenly consigned to risk of bankruptcy and taxpayer dependency if they incur any of the costly maladies to which our flesh is heir.

The unavoidable bottom-line choice for those who like to fancy themselves alienated from the American community seems to be: 1) Dump themedical costs of the sick on the taxpayer or 2) Let them suffer and die.

 

Even the Dept. of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics infomation indicates an unemployment rate of 9.3%. Look at the measurement criteria in each of the "U" categories at this website and see which one is closest to REALITY: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

BTW, the "official" unemployment rate, according to the U-3 report is 4.6%, but the circumstances we've been dealing with since the Great Recession officially ended much more closely parallel the U-6 report... thus, an unemployment rate of 9.3%. How much, though, are these books "cooked" and, uh, "revised" periodically...?

Link: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

 

You are quite pissy about the plan (for which the federal subsidy is far less than for employer-administered plans) but you have not explained what will replace it and prevent the 20,000,000 million Americans covered under it from being dumped onto the taxpayer tab again.

 

Incidentally, there are many more cost-efficient and effective plans that achieve universal coverage for their citizens in other first-world nations.

No, none is perfect.

Might any serve as an acceptable paradigm for the malcontents, or is there no demonstrable approach anywhere in the real of reality that would assuage their sniveling?

 

Through autocratic distribution? No. Especially after the USA's "brightest" political scientists and "experts" gave us Obamacare.

Nope, time for a more common sense approach and give different people a chance to revive the struggling Obama economy.

 

Are you saying we never had enough employment?

Because the healthcare system before the ACA was a friggin mess

 

Yup, labor participation is way too low; and people are underemployed, too.

We do need to feature open private, competitive markets to increase our healthcare output, however.

 

Politicians should not get people jobs, they need marketable skills to compete in the job market.

I understand why some people feel being beholden to a company for healthcare is a good thing, keeps folks from leaving and competing with the company. But I believe that we are better as a country when entrepreneurs can have access to healthcare to pursue their dreams without needing a job at a company.

 

Nothing you say makes sense.

You claim that employment will solve healthcare problems. Well it didn't in the past so why would it in the future?

The bottom line is that you know there is no plan to replace the AC and you don't care that millions would lose healthcare insurance...

 

It isn't the republican party's duty to provide me health insurance. It is my duty to provide myself health insurance. I am just hopeful the costs will be contained under whatever they do because they sure as heck weren't under the current administration.

 

It makes complete sense. If people made enough money we wouldn't be having these discussions.

Again, we need to provide a competitive market and that will expand our coverage and options. Trump purposed eliminating state lines for competing companies and I think that is a great start.

ACA is just terrible legislation, we can provide healthcare to more people that need through expansion of medicaid and medicare.

 

Well? Have people EVER made enough money to make healthcare universal?

No? Hmmmmm

Apparently we've never had a "competitive market" whatever your definition of that fantasy is...

So the GOP is basing their replacement of the ACA on a fantasy. Exactly

 

Guess how you get marketable skills? By working at a job. A college degree is nothing more than a wicket.

You certainly don't get marketable skills as a 3rd generation welfare recipient.

Obama policies have been the biggest obstacle to small businesses and those entrepreneurs you speak of.

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...and now it's worse.

 

So having 20 million more people insured is "worse"?

 

Marketable skills are a result of a good education, hard work and investing in yourself. Do you have data that backs your point on a college degree being worthless? Perhaps salary by educational achievement will make your point.

Also lets see your data on how employment decreased with obamacare and small biz obstacles as well. I'll keep an open mind.

 

First of all, the 20 million is baloney.

Secondly, yes, it is worse, because Obamacare is unsustainable and is self-destructing.

 

The Republican Party does have a duty to ensure that Free Markets are in play in the health care industry, so that you have both Free Market medical care and Free-Market health plan coverage.

The best way for Republicans to do that is to repeal all tax subsidies for employer-based plans and redirect them to private group plans, in order to force the decoupling of healthcare from employers.

 

Yes.

How many people work in the field their degree is for? Not many.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...elated-to-their-major/?utm_term=.e50920133c11

How does one get a college education in the first place?

There are about 4 choices: scholarship, join the military, have rich parents, or go into major debt.

Current unemployment is close to 10%, you know how they figure the "politically correct" unemployment figures right?

Obamacare is clearly collapsing under it's own weight. Even if we do nothing, it will not be around much longer with the exchange providers leaping out of the market.

When it comes to small business, Obama's regulations have been knee-capping all but the largest companies. Look at how the stock market bounced when investors realized Democrats would no longer be in control. The Fed is raising interest rates. Consumer confidence is way up. The GDP never went over 3% at any time during Obama's presidency.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/econo...s-small-businesses-with-excessive-regulations

 

Your stats on working in your field does not prove your point that a college degree is worthless. How about some data on lifetime earnings vs education, that would prove your point.

Payment for college supports your point how exactly?

It's nice to know you keep your own employment stats. I assume you cannot prove your point on employment decreasing with obamacare. No big deal, I knew you were winging it.

And your last mismash of things, purely emotional on your part.

 

I never said a degree was worthless, that was all you. I called it a wicket. Arguably tho, there are many fields where the degree itself is considered pretty worthless.

Options to get a degree are limited was my point. Getting work experience by actually working is what you're evaluated on.

They have this thing called Google. Go there and type in "what is the real unemployment rate" and read. It's not hard.

Actually my last "mishmash" was a list of facts.