What penalty should a woman who has an abortion face?

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What penalty should a woman who has an abortion face?

  1. First degree murder charges ( death penalty applies here in states that use the death penalty )

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  2. Second degree murder.

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  3. Manslaughter

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  4. Other ( you can elaborate below )

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  5. None

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  1. The Amazing Sam's Ego

    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    thats like saying, "i chose to have a child, but i didn't chose to pay child support". Not wanting to fullfill a responsibility doesn't exempt you from fullfilling it.
     
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    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    If the woman got pregnant from rape or incest, her body autonomy was violated in the act that got her pregnant. If she got pregnant from consensual sex, her body autonomy was not violated in the act that got her pregnant.
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    WHAT is? What question are you addressing ????????!!!!!

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    AND you have NEVER explained what you think is the difference between the medical procedure for an abortion due to rape and the medical procedure for abortion due to consensual sex.....
     
  4. OhZone

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    I didn't say that it was a part of the woman's body.
    It is a parasite feeding off the woman's body and it is her choice as to whether she wants to continue to harbor it.
     
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    How about the responsibility of the sperm donor?
    Shouldn't he share his part of the pregnancy?
    Shouldn't he support the woman thru the pregnancy and the child afterward? Shouldn't he share his part as a parent to the child?
    Why are you forgetting that he is 1/2 of the consensual act?
    Always you misogynists blame the woman for consenting and give her the full responsibility for giving birth and supporting and raising the child.
    Should we go back to having shot-gun weddings?
     
  6. Crawdadr

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    There is no difference the child is not to blame for the acts of the father.
     
  7. Crawdadr

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    The father should have to participate in the support and care of the child and mother, that is his responsibility during and after the pregnancy. The mothers responsibility is carrying the child to term and caring for the child afterword. Of course the parents could choose adoption after the child is born.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    YOU may believe that but there are Anti-Choicers who think exceptions to abortion should be made for rape and incest.

    And they can NEVER address this:

    ...explain what you think is the difference between the medical procedure for an abortion due to rape and the medical procedure for abortion due to consensual sex.....
     
  9. Turin

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    Well, when it comes down to it, its not really my desicion to make. Its not MY body that will be forced to undergo the dangerous condition known as pregnancy. Which, is still one of the top killers of women around the world.

    However. To answer your question. We made a desicion TOGETHER that, IF she were to get pregnant. We would not seek an abortion, and we would raise said child. Fair enough? But that was a desicion WE made. And if, she decided that she really disnt want a child, and would seek an abortion, I would say that I should have no legal right to stop her. Cause, after all, once again. Its not MY body that has to support a second organism. And same thing goes the other way. If I decided that I all of a sudden wanted her to abort, and she said no. Thats it. End of story. Its her body. Again, I have no right to force her to do anything. And then I would of course likely get forced by the courts to support that life. Thats just how it is. I have no issue with that.
     
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    Ok, and that is a big issue, if a woman has complete control of her body and can choose to have or not have the child then a man should be able to request that she have an abortion and if she chooses not too then he should not have to support that child. After all like FoxHastings earlier said "They chose to have sex , they didn't choose pregnancy."

    But it is good that you would take responsibility for both of your actions.
     
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    I think abortion is murder. I also realize that the argument of "when life begins" is a matter of opinion. Rather than pursue murder charges, I would simply make absolutely sure that any state, local, or federal tax dollars do not support abortion. Either some privately funded pro-abortion group will pay for it or the mom and dad will pay for it. I'd rather not be involved.
     
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    Imprisonment until the age of 65 for the first offense. If there is a second offense, death by stoning. The person who performs the procedure should just skip ahead to death by stoning.
     
  13. AveMariaGratiaPlena

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    First Degree Murder but she should only have to face life in prison rather than the death penalty because I am against the death penalty.
     
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    The same penalty as a woman who is pregnant and does not adhere to the prenatal care that strangers deem appropriate...in other words...NONE, as in NONE of anyone's business what a woman does with her body.
     
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    And....what if she miscarries?

    Should we give the same punishment to God?
     
  16. PatrickT

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    Years ago when I was working I got a phone call from a young boy who was crying. "Can you tell me the penalty for killing a bluebird?"

    "Oh, it's terrible. It's horrible. The penalty is that you never, ever, get to forget what you did?"

    "Oh, I won't. I swear I won't."

    The boy is obviously not destined to be a liberal.

    I wonder what the penalty for a post-natal abortion should be?
     
  17. AveMariaGratiaPlena

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    Obviously if a woman unintentionally miscarries then she should not face any criminal charges.

    As far as punishing God goes, you can try it but somehow I don't think you're going to succeed. Personally I cannot endorse any such attempt though.
     
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    Who is truly the judge of this? I don't support abortion, and I don't support people judging others for what they do to their body. That is up to her and God. It's her body. What gives us the right to tell someone what they can and can't do with it. I think she should be able to make her own decisions about herself.
     
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    My point being:

    God is apparently responsible for all things that transpire on this Earth.
    God is an Omnipotent and all powerful entity.
    God controls nature.
    Miscarriage is a natural process.
    Miscarriage kills the fetus.
    Killing the fetus is murder.

    God is a Murderer.
     
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    In Italy, when abortion was still illegal [a crime against the person, the old Fascist code defined it a "crime against the race", but it was an other context!] the woman who decided to abort was imprisoned for a period from 2 to 5 years. The doctor or the persons doing the abortion knew the same punishment.

    If a doctor or a person forced an underage teen to make abortion, the punishment was more severe: up to 12 years.
    Who gave instruments or rooms to make abortions risked up to 2 years of imprisonment.
     
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    I realize you're starting with a significant handicap but should you specify that you're talking about an abortion for convenience?
     
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    Did you have a particular purpose in insulting me? Or were you just trying to be a dick?
     
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    I voted for first degree murder.

    But if the woman is a Muslim Fanatic, we should drop all charges and praise her for not bringing another fanatic into the world. We should only drop charges, though, if she tells us where her terrorist brothers are, so we can bomb 'em with our F16s. Otherwise, charge her with 1st degree murder and execute her immediately.

    God bless Israel.
     
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    What should be the penalty for the man who impregnates the woman who gets the abortion? I say castration. (Just kidding):angel:

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    What should be the penalty for the man who impregnates the woman who gets the abortion? I say castration. (Just kidding):angel:
     
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    Only a brainless brainiac who thinks that abortion is murder would think of some dizzy poll that deals with your sorry thread. A woman has the right to choose.

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    you need insulted. Wait, you need slapped then insulted.
     

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