What the “Trump Phenomenon” Says About the State of Class Consciousness in America

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    charleslb New Member

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    Well, some of us are disturbed by the prospect of a "libertarian" president further unfettering the capitalist elite.
     
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    LOL, so we are both a couple of very disturbed individuals.
     
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    I think that Bernie Sander's ideology is starting to have SOME influence on her.
     
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    As far as communism vs. capitalism goes, let me attempt to nutshell it. Love your neighbor, and construct a society upon the ethical foundation of love of neighbor are the fundamental moral imperatives that communism expressly seeks to fulfill, and that capitalism blatantly rejects. This is why communism, despite having historically been impersonated by some pretty awful systems, holds promise and hope; and why capitalism, and any society that stubbornly remains capitalist, is quite doomed.

    (Btw, I know that it's a common misconception that Marxism is a wertfrei conceptuality that has no truck with morality, this is indeed an unfortunate misconception, deriving mainly from a limited conception of what constitutes morality.)
     
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    Let us hope so.
     
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    I guess that you could say that. And that I'm even more disturbed than you, since I find the idea of your man, Mr. Johnson, in the Oval Office to be exceedingly disturbing and distressing.
     
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    This is merely the sort of cynical reductionism that one can expect from doctrinaire anti-communists, conservatives, free-marketeers, "libertarians", et al. (Also, see the fourth from the top post on this page.)
     
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    Note that nowhere here do you argue I am wrong.
    Thus, i accept the concession of the point.

    Why do you support state-enforced involuntary servitude?
     
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