Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    False and disingenuous.
    QUOTE WHATEVER IT IS YOU CLAIM I SHOULD BE DEBATING or admit that you are spewing nothing but empty bull$#!+.
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!! You presume, despicably, to upbraid me for not debating "the subject matter" when you haven't even said what you think the subject matter is!

    Put up or shut up. Now.
     
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  2. Tejas

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    There is NO "climate emergency"...

    It's a BIG LIE !!


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  3. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sorry, but you're the one claiming your opponents deny evidence.
     
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    I don't know if we often agree, but nice post!
     
  5. Death

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    Not all of them JH some on this thread. I should have been clearer. Not you. I concede there are scientists who disagree with whether the climate change warrants any extra political efforts, etc., and those that do. I concede there may be some on both sides of the arguement coloured by who funds their research or their own poitical biases. I concede there are two sides of this debate. I should have clarified and said most scientists do NOT disagree their is climate change-they disagree on what if anything should be done about it.

    The evidence just from the changes in our oceans and lakes and types, intensity and frequency of rain tells us that. The insurance industry alone can provide you statistics on how rain intensity has changed in the last 50 years causing different kinds of property risk now and these climate changes all indicate warming patterns.

    I myself go with the science that says there are cycles of climate change regardless of what humans do, but I also go with scientists that argue our human industrial activities from specific gases we have emitted have exasperated or accelerated climate change and we need to address that.

    I fully concede my biases and respect anyone for disagreeing and debating it. I just get snot nosed about people who giggle at others and refuse to specifically debate. I call it out.

    Jack I am he first to admit I am a source of global warming. I am full of both **** and hot air.
     
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  6. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Fair enough.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am a big proponent of doing thing through the private sector if at all possible......

    because bureaucracies tend to mess up anything and everything that they
    try to fix.

    I tried to talk Sir Richard Branson into going at this through something along the line of BitCoin...... but so far.... he rejected my proposal????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...for-25-million-virgin-earth-challenge.371794/


    My two somewhat humorous submissions for $25 million Virgin Earth Challenge.



    http://www.virginearth.com/

    Kind of a neat title though Eh?


    "Anti-Armageddon Paradigm Shift Monetary Policy Theory The Introduction."
    (post number two) .....
     
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  8. Sunsettommy

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    Your pretzel replies are always funny since what I posted were based on official temperature data and source, it IS cooling since 2016, you have never contradicted it with evidence instead you move the goal post over and over with specious babble.

    Meanwhile as usual you don't post evidence of climate emergency....... :roflol:
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does this mean that you lean toward Global Warming being significantly some sort of SOLAR cycle, perhaps even more so than the insulation effect of CO2 or methane or any other atmospheric gas?
     
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    Death writes:

    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    No it is a question asking for evidence of climate emergency, which after 12 pages haven't been answered.

    Meanwhile you fail to answer the easy to understand question, still waiting for an answer......

    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    The typical lie comes along, skeptics deny climate changes, yet you didn't quote anyone..., thus you end with nothing but evasive psychobabble to bore people with, such as "Motivated Inference" which would make hack psychologists proud.

    Ha ha ha ha ha...... meanwhile the simple question remains unanswered.

    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    Why can't you just answer the simple question or go away.

    From post 261 I wrote:

    "2021 - 1979 = 42 years, yes it has been warming since 1979 but it has been cooling slightly longer than it has warmed since 1979 to now, which is what the UAH chart shows that it has cooled slightly since 1998 which is 22 years now."

    I am referring to a Satellite database that STARTED in 1979...... , that is just 42 TOTAL years. Your "centuries" argument died on arrival since the database is only 42 years long.

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    Why can't you understand my simple statement?

    I stated that it has been warming since 1979, how can you miss it?

    However it has been cooling slightly longer than it has been warming since 1979. which begs the question: Does CO2 take vacations for a few years at a time?

    Never talked climate change at all in the post....

    So after 12 pages the evidence exist, but somehow you and others show a profound fear of answering a simple question that scares you people too much to answer it, really you think your hilarious excuses for NOT answering the question helps your case?

    :hiding:

    You are evading pure and simple, the excuses are embarrassing.

    Here is the question from post one and the article that talks about with posted hard evidence that there is NO climate emergency developing at all.

    Referring to post one that people here irrationally avoid with honest replies:

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    Despite my asking over and over in a host of forums, to date nobody has been able to tell me just what this supposed “CLIMATE EMERGENCY!!” actually is and where I might find evidence that it exists. Here are some facts for the folks that think that the climate is a real danger to humanity.

    Deaths from climate-related phenomena are at an all-time low. If you think deaths from climate-related catastrophes are an emergency, please point in the graph below to the start of the “emergency”.

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    Storminess has not gone up, and there’s been no increase in hurricane strength or frequency … no “emergency” there.

    LINK

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    This question is so terrifying to warmist/alarmists that they are scurrying all over the place with evasive and dead on arrival replies that doesn't answer the question.

    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    :banana::banana::banana:
     
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  11. Sunsettommy

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    The SUN/Ocean effects dominates the climate of the planet.
     
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    Sunsettommy Well-Known Member

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    Some quotes to ponder over:

    “A global warming treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the enhanced greenhouse effect.” ~Richard Benedick, deputy assistant secretary of state, USA

    “No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits… Climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.” ~Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister

    “We have to offer up scary scenarios about global warming … …each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” ~Stephen Schneider, Stanford University environmentalist
     
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  13. bringiton

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    I certainly do, and I have explained why it is objectively correct.
     
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    Again, nice post!
     
  15. Jack Hays

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    The alarmists don't know which crisis to claim is imminent. Perhaps there isn't one.

    Climate Alarmists Flip-Flop Again: Cancel their Monsoon Drought Crisis, Now Claim Too Much Rain
    HEAVY RAINFALL JUNE 9, 2021

    Among its top results today under the search term “climate change,” Google News is highlighting articles claiming new research shows global warming will cause stronger Indian and South Asian monsoons and rainfall, which will wreak climate havoc in future decades. Yet, just a few years ago climate alarmists and their media allies claimed global warming will cause weakening monsoons and weakening rainfall, which will wreak climate havoc. The alarmists’ embarrassing self-contradiction begs the question – precisely what among the contradictory alarmist climate narratives is the “settled science”? . . . .
     
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  16. bringiton

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    CO2 causes the global climate to become too hot -- or, if it gets colder, too cold. It causes drought -- or, if there is a flood, flooding. It causes hurricanes -- or, if there is not enough wind to run the windmills, a dearth of wind. It causes the sun to shine too much -- or, if overcast skies stop the solar power plants from working, excessive cloudiness.

    How long do the liars think they can get people to swallow this bull$#!+?
     
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    [​IMG]

    The sales pf Pretzels have soared in the last 20 years, no wonder why it is the alarmists favorite snack.
     
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    Could you please quote the passages in each document that you think constitute credible scientific evidence that there is a climate emergency? Thank you.
     
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    They didn't answer the simple question in the first place...... they will NOT answer your reasonable request either because.... they..... can't..... answer..... it on their own.

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    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    ooohhhhh my liver!!!!


    LOL
     
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    Still waiting for the answer to a very hard question that warmists/alarmists never answer, a link barrage isn't answering the question at all and your complaint that I won't read them is IRRELEVANT because I am the one who asked the question many times in the thread that I started.


    Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

    :afro:
     
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    Do your own research! We did ours! Jeez, what a maroon!
     
  24. Sunsettommy

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    What was the answer?

    8)

    Links are not answers, surely that is obvious.
     
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    Meanwhile more evidence that it isn't unusual and rates similar in the past decades.

    C3 Headlines

    Global Warming Temperature Characteristics of A Climate Emergency: 1941 Versus 2020

    April 5, 2021

    Excerpt:

    Be it Climate Doomsday, Climate Emergency or Climate Crisis: It's not just a matter of the global warming that has taken place since the late 1800s.

    More importantly, it's how much the temperatures are changing over a period of time and the speed at which they are doing so that are the central characteristics determining if the climate is actually headed towards a disequilibrium state of doom.

    If the Earth's climate is approaching a disequilibrium, or is already in a disequilibrium of existential climate instability, global temperature change and acceleration rates would have to be unprecedented.

    By using the IPCC's gold-standard (HadCrut) of global temperature measurements, it can be determined if the global temperatures at the end of 2020 are exhibiting an amount of change and/or acceleration that are unprecedented.

    [​IMG]

    LINK
     
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