Which will rule the West in 50 years? Islam or Marxism?

The day Islamists route the US military unleashed is the day pigs fly. Our soldiers allow the Islamists to live. It is solely in their discretion to kill and dominate every Muslim country.

 

The military is subject to the will of its political leadership. It doesn't matter what the U.S. military can do. What matters is what the U.S. military will be ordered to do.

 

Granny says it gonna be the Chinamens.

 

A victory of Islam or Marxism means total destruction to the economy; to the government and to the people. Conservatism is the only ideology that would lift all boats, but you knew this already.

 

It's not a question of pure capitalism, but more so how extreme we get in our own system. The more "conservative" we get, the worse it becomes before it collapses in on itself. And no, a simple line doesn't work. Think of it more like this. Say we both have a favorite shirt. When we first start wearing it, it's nice, but if we wear it everyday without washing it, no one wants it anymore. Same principle applies. It doesn't matter how far left or right we are, just how much we change.

 

More so right, but really just becoming more conservative.

 

paranoid nonsense.

america will remain a regulated capitalist economy with stronger social safety net.

Islam will not rule america unless the it can convert the 250 million christians (orso) living in it.

and marxism is a dog that jes' doan hunt;.

 

None. We are going to defeat the communists and the muzzies.

 

Not when we are the communists and the muzzies.. two groups the West is filling up with.

 

I don't think the the US or Australia will be overtaken; nor Eastern/Central Europe or Asia.

 

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Uh, neither of the above? Unless some sort of major revolution occurs that will result in the throwing out of the constitution, I really don't think that American conservatives would have to worry about the U.S. being a Marxist utopia or an Islamic state.

Oh, and for those who would respond to me with a comment like "Obama is already destroying America and making it a marxist-socialist-islamic-fascist hellhole".

 

LoL : D So you gonna shot me down ? LoooooooooooooooL

 

if we had another dark age, I would fear the fanatical Muslims and Christians, they seem to use these times in history to convert or kill non-believers

 

So its about extremity vs. moderation then? Why would extremism be on the right side? the economy hasn't really been going more to the right anyways.

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So your spectrum here has left, right, and conservative?

How's this any conservative?

 

No need, Europe is already in decline. Just watch it kill itself is the plan.

 

Ive no idea how things will be in 50 years, but the treats are very real.

Firstly theres the idiot Marxists/ leftists and the elitist Marxists, theres no guarantee both have the same vision. The elites can paint the utopia picture to gather more useless idiots, then do their own thing, who could stop them if its allowed to grow large enough, if not already. Just because Communism failed doesnt mean they dont have a different version in mind - its about control.

Monopoly backed capitalism / corporatism does fit in with the Marxist/ Leftist agenda. What is the goal? WORLD socialism, one world govt, no borders ect ect. These monopolies go global, we condition people to the idea of unions like the EU/ UN and their laws, make people question what is a race (what is a homeland ect ect all that marxist BS), borders, states ect. Go global with monopolies and its only a small step to have the people rising up against the so called capitalists as Marx envisioned except that we've already delivered the global part! Boom instant world neo-communism, or at least a huge part of the way there if they get the first world west.

Obviously the capitalist have all the wealth and wont really be down with having their dead bodies dragged through the streets and the wealth taken 'for the greater good'. So its unlikely to get to a complete over throw, more likely they'll strike deals that sees them, their families remain at the top. Instead of govt owning all production they'll be allowed their companies but just be taxed brutally and in return be assured of never having any competition. Elites forever, almost like royal families, great deal! Hey even if govt did take over production, they'd need people to run each industry no? May as well keep em alive.

OK next the Muzzas, clearly a threat but lets think about it a bit. From what we see we're headed down the civil unrest/ war, racial war path. Clearly this multi cult semi open border crap is the work of the Marxists left, the old divide and conquer game, straight out of the cultural Marxist playbook. But surely they dont plan on becoming dhimmis to Islam, how could they possibly control the population?

I guess they'd need some sort of global police state, hey like the UN, perhaps the people will celebrate its arrival to calm civil unrest, fancy that.

Disarming citizens would be handy - no1 would try that surely? Oh the UN are, leftists are? bugger

Also tracking every thing people do and say would be handy. Nip any uprising in the butt before it gains traction would be ideal. But who in their right mind would allow govt to do that? Oh NM.

Then you'd probably want the ability to spread govt propaganda. Call out any group you like as terrorists and indoctrinate the zombies via their idiot boxes. Oh didnt Obama just drop a law which stopped govt spreading propaganda, sure i read that somewhere.

Yeah, i dont see Islam taking over Europe although there will be major civil unrest and the idiots will love all the above programs to protect them. But if im wrong and Islam does become a huge threat in Europe and the Marxists dont police state it to death, then yes we'll be in civil war. Groups will rise like Golden Dawn all over the West, possible resulting in realignment of boundaries. I wont call them Fascists because the Marxists will pretty much be fascists themselves and Islam is Fascist.

But the US wont be over run by Muslims, at least not in a 50 year time frame. The problem for the US and ultimately smaller countries like Australia is, IF Europe falls or is so crippled by civil war - Who are your allies in the world? If Europe become Islamic, they control a lot and nukes....... Well the US will have little choice.

 

One thing's for certain, it won't be Nazis or their idiotic contemporary fanboys, most of whom seem to be brain-dead thugs, for whom violence is their modus operandi, and for whom anyone not fitting some absurd racial stereotype is a mortal threat. We know how to deal with Nazis in the only language they understand.

 

its certainly a possibility. if racial tebsions rise in europe and things go to (*)(*)(*)(*), that could pave the way for fascists. how can you says its not a possibility? what do you base it on? wishful thinking is no basis.

 

I for one, think that's highly possible. I think what happened in Yugoslavia (remember that country?) could play out in Europe writ large. And it played out in Lebanon to a certain extent. I think an early warning sign of that will be Islamist political parties rising across Europe. We're not there yet, but I think eventually we will be.

 

Why you think islam will destroy Europe , world will be more beautiful with real islam . Dont worry .

Muslim and Proud : )))

 

I believe supply side economics should be supplying us with better governance at lower cost.

 

Are there any Muslim countries or societies you can point to too show this though?

 

Unfortunately ...... But could have been if your countries had not done colonialism in my countries . So we changed the tactics . We will move to your countries , you like it or not , this does not change anything , we will get to your country and will live together fraternal , da daaa ! : )))

 

Which will rule the West in 50 years? Islam or Marxism?

Neither - reactionary nutters living in deep caves will rule the charred remnants of it.