Whistleblower 'didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications' between Trump and Ukraine

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not exactly...

    She knew that she was under investigation for other leaking and decided to try to cover it by claiming immunity... And it should be fun finding out how the supposedly confidential IG referral was leaked to Adam Schiff.

    So, if everything is looked at closely, the Dems are going to have egg on their faces once again.
     
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    Prosecutor Victor Shokin's deputy Prosecutor Vitaly Kasko resigned in Feb 2016 sighting coruption in Shokin's office and that Shokin had failed to investigate Burisma Holdings the company that Little Biden worked for.

    So Shokin was was accused of failing to prosecute Little Biden's company but Trump fans are claiming that Old Man Biden got Shokin fired for prosecuting Little Biden.

    Trump fanatics cannot have it both ways.



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Dems are going to appear to try to protect Biden and in doing so may protect him right into the DNC nomination.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden's own words speak for themselves. Bragging about doing something to manipulate a foreign government is what makes this so juicy.... Biden is on video.
     
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    So, Trump is smarter than what the left-wingers make him out to be.
     
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    Trump is a genius. I also believe this was created by Trump and his campaign staff.
    He is pulling the alt-leftie chain literally every hour.
     
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    There is no law broken unless Biden got something in return which he did not.
     
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    He got a prosecutor fired, at least according to his video.

    Hillary was the first one to bring up this story in 2015 when she wanted to keep Biden out of the race.
     
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    And you have examples of this?
     
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    That prosecutor got fired because he failed to prosecute NOT because he he did prosecute.
     
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    They've just released the identity of the whistle blower. It was REO Speedwagon. They heard it form a friend who, heard from a friend who, heard it from another Trump's been messing around.

    The leftist media has gone full clown world.
     
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    You'd better tell the IG, who found the whistleblower's report "credible and urgent". i.e. not "making crap up".
     
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    I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. Biden effectively extorted a foreign leader by telling him he wouldn't get aid unless h
    You have that wrong and Biden himself confirmed it in an on the record statement he made 2 years after leaving office.

    The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Trump asked his Ukranian counterpart to investigate Hunter Biden, who had a key role in a natural gas firm, Burisma Holdings, that was being investigated by a Ukrainian prosecutor as part of a corruption probe. Hunter Biden has not been accused of wrongdoing during his time at the company, where he made $50,000 a month as a member of the board of directors, according to The New York Times. Up until his role on the board, Hunter Biden had no experience in Ukraine, the Times reported.

    At a conference two years after he left office, Joe Biden openly boasted about successfully pressuring Ukraine to fire that prosecutor when he was vice president.

    Joe Biden has explained on camera that in March 2016, he privately threatened then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that the U.S. would withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees from Ukraine if its top prosecutor was not fired.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1174910135421919232

    Joe Bieden: “I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion,'" Biden recounted telling Poroshenko at a Council on Foreign Relations event. "I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.'"

    “Well, son of a b-tch, he got fired," Biden continued, after assuring Poroshenko that Obama knew about the arrangement. "And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”
     
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    DNI Inspector General Michael Atkinson said in a Sep. 9 letter to the House Intelligence Committee that the whistleblower complaint "appeared credible" and related to an "urgent" matter. But the DNI general counsel said days later that, after consulting with the DOJ, the matter did not meet the legal definition of an “urgent concern," and was not subject to mandatory disclosure to Congress.

    “Furthermore, because the complaint involves confidential and potentially privileged communications by persons outside the Intelligence Community, the DNI lacks unilateral authority to transmit such materials to the intelligence committees,” Jason Klitenic, the DNI general counsel, wrote.
     
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    Thanks for confirming that the DNI IG considered the complaint both credible and urgent.

    And thanks also for confirming that Trump's appointees are trying to bury the report to make sure that Congress never sees it, even though the law says it should go to Congress automatically.

    It's a cover-up and you support it. Sad.
     
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    Well, the story has already been tried and failed so this is just part two of the same thing.

    It’s Deja-Vu All Over Again – The Ukraine Effort is Simply “Obstruction 2.0″…
     
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    If it is true that Biden used political pressure to get a hard driving Ukrainian attorney general dismissed who was investigating his son's company, then Biden should be investigated.

    It definitely should be investigated to determine if Joe Biden made a threat of withholding 1 billion dollars in aid if the AG was not dismissed.
     
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    Remember when Schiff lied about intelligence for part 1 obstruction? He is doing the same now for part 2. Atkinson is another one of those involved in part 1.
     
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    Rep Schiff is dem house piss ant loser of the Nth degree. A No credibility and inconsequential wanabee
     
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    Checks and balances chief. IG Atkinson's legal counsel corrected his mistake. More to follow as the whistle blower digs a shallow grave for Biden's campaign.
     
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    The legislation is the “check and balance”. It calls for the report to go to the Congressional committee (“shall” = mandatory) if the report is found to be credible and urgent. There is no mechanism for further review before it goes to the committee.

    This is a cover-up, plain and simple. And you are cheering on the cover-up.

    Sad.
     
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    No no no no no no no ! Biden said to remove the prosecutor who failed to investigate or prosecute Burisma the company Hunter worked for. Shokin was not investigating Hunter or Burisma so your story fails.
     
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    The IMF and Western countries wanted that prosecutor fired because he failed to prosecute and investigate. Since Shokin was not investigating Biden had nothing to stop. Again Shokin was fired for NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT investigating. Get it!
     
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    What did he do? What Ukrainian law did hunter break?
     
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