White House forbids CDC from using 7 words, including ‘transgender’ and ‘diversity’

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  1. Max Rockatansky

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    I did.

    Correct, but the same applies to RW partisans too.
     
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    Correct. Why do you think the Trump administration banned the use of "fetus"?.... not to mention all the other terms.
     
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    Sure, why use any science words at all? Let's just use PC speech.
     
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    And when it's time for birth, we'll go see the baby-puller-outer at the sick-white-people-building...
     
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    Clarity and policy I guess.
     
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    Why not use common word usage so everyone understands?
    The CDC already does

    "Alcohol: When you drink alcohol, so does your unborn baby. There is no known safe amount of alcohol to drink while pregnant.

    Vaccinations: Vaccines help protect you and your baby against serious diseases. CDC recommends you get a whooping cough and flu vaccine during each pregnancy to help protect yourself and your developing baby. Talk to your ob-gyn or midwife about including vaccines as part of a healthy pregnancy.

    Infections: You won’t always know if you have an infection—sometimes you won’t even feel sick. Learn how to help prevent infections that could harm your unborn baby."
    https://www.cdc.gov/pregnancy/during.html

    Note they don't use the terms "fetus" or "zygote", why do you think that is?
     
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    History has shown us that there is no bottom to the well of stupid that both sides drink from, though both are in a race to find it. Pragmatism teaches patience.

    I think the truth of the story will not result in the elimination of the words vulnerable or fetus from the governmental lexicon.

    It’s probably 50% Trump admin attempting to control language and 50% Trump opposition attempting to paint Trump’s evil intent as whomstiester than hitler’s dominatrix.
     
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    How can you even begin to defend this if it's true........

    The far right posters at this site are truly something else.
     
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    You don't need to sit at a table together and actively conspire to have a conspiracy. You can just feed off of each other and promote each other's lies as facts.
     
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    You can't be honest right now..

    https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/motor-vehicle-safety/index.html

    You guys are just doing Colbert Report style satire right?

    Fetus is a scientific based biological term......

    What the hell am I even reading in this thread. Seriously every science based thread that makes its way over to "Current Events" leads to comedy gold.

    Please far right posters, just do some googling first before you post in these types of topics. My sides can only take so much.
     
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    It is no longer "PC" to refer to a microscopic, mindless amalgam of cells as a "zygote", "morula", "blastocyst", "embryo", or "fetus".

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    The new, officially-approved loaded, euphemistic nomenclature is "Aw, coochy-coochy-coo! What a cute little dickens!":
    WARNING! Failure to comply will result in hysterical pissy tweets spewed at pregnant women, their gynecologists, spiritual advisers, and trusted families and friends who violate the blanket gag order ... pending the seizure of all wombs by the "State" (i.e., dried up old geysers in Washington.)​
     
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    Industrial greenhouse gas emissions must henceforth be referred to as "Gaian Eau de Cologne."
     
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    The Center's for Disease Control and Prevention are tasked with issues that affect public health in general.

    Just because you're happy with a giant hole in the knowledge that affects every day American life doesn't mean that having that hole is a good thing.
     
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    So, go lock yourself up in an airtight room full of CO2. Report back to us on how that worked for you.

    Don't use terms that trigger right-wingers like 'fetus', 'global warming', 'science', or 'logic' though.
     
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    Not me

    I know know nothing lasts long these days

    My regret is that we arent making better use of the time we have

    If we were you would be screaming even louder
     
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    Because « unborn baby « makes the pro abortionists squirm
     
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    Exactly. Trump ban on the CDC using words like 'transgender,' 'diversity,' and 'entitlement' is simply another step in ending "progressives" tyranny of language, freeing the human spirit.

    Controlling language, controls people's attitudes and we don't need the Administrative State controlling language. The government has been doing that for years with code phrases like "abortion" (also known as ending the life of a baby) and "Earned Income Tax Credit" (also known as welfare).

    Now "progressives" are getting upset that President Trump is ripping several pages from their Newspeak lexicon.

    The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation's top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases – including "fetus" and "transgender" – in any official documents being prepared for next year's budget.

    Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are "vulnerable," "entitlement," "diversity," "transgender," "fetus," "evidence-based" and "science-based." ...

    "Certain words" in the CDC's budget drafts were being sent back to the agency for correction. Three words that had been flagged in these drafts were "vulnerable," "entitlement" and "diversity."

    State it without the "progressive" jargon and if you can't, don't.

    Take "Vulnerable" for example: This word has been used by "progressives" to mean many things, depending on the context. Someone could be "vulnerable" to drug use, meaning he's a drug addict, or someone could be "vulnerable" in the sense that he is incapable of holding a job or earning a living. I suggest using "lacking in motivation" as a more descriptive term.

    "Entitlement": We used to call this "welfare." But when it became an "entitlement," it became something people are owed – in this case, other people's money. It put them on a higher moral plane. We could go back to calling it welfare or, perhaps a little more precisely, robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    "Diversity": Diversity is a code word for ethnic cleansing of heterosexual white men. The opposite of "diversity" – "gentrification" – is considered a bad thing, because while "diverse" ethnic cleansing is considered positive, the opposite, putting too much cream in the coffee, so to speak, is not. What can replace "diversity"? How about "banishment of white men"? It's wordy, but again, it's accurate.

    "Transgender": A whole new word was created by people with a delusion who insist that the entire world accommodate their delusion. We could go back to calling it to what the American Psychiatric Association used to call it, which was simply "mental illness."

    "Fetus": This one confuses me. "Progressives" actually want to deny the existence of fetuses, so I am not sure what trouble Trump has with this word.

    "Evidence-based" and "Science-based": These phrases have been perverted to present opinion, and blatantly false "research," as incontrovertible fact. The global warming scam comes immediately to mind. "Progressives" use this phrase to shut down any discussion of the global warming agenda. Not only has science become politicized and perverted, but even the language describing it has, so now the term "science-based" has actually become a "progressive" code phrase to represent the perversion of science. No wonder Trump doesn't want to be associated with it.

    Language is important because policies flow, in part, from language. If the CDC is obsessed with "transgender" and "vulnerable," it is not focused on its main priority, protecting the health of all Americans, not niche groups with political cachet.

    What other words or phrases should Trump ban the federal government from using? How about, for starters, "substance abuser," "undocumented," "well to do," "less fortunate," "the rich," and anything with the word "class" in it, plus any other word or phrase associated with Karl Marx?
     
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    You exhibit broad brush arrogance with a generous dose of apparent ignorance if you think that you know where the needles of my political compass comes to rest. Based upon your accusation using the MO of arrogant extremists who instead of debating pocily and concepts attempt to smear the other guy. If anyone is a bonified consumer of fishing tackle designed to render captive our unaware gill equipped friends it is you and not I. You are either unaware or chose to ignore the fact that the vast majority of people's political beliefs span the spectrum and will fall in a diferent spot depending on the issue. You seem to like to accuse the majority of people of accepting what is fed them but only the extremes accept the stance that a women should not have a choice in completing her pregnancy. You seem to believe that there us some test to conservatism or liberalism. You must think that to be a conservative that you must not believe in public education or municipal fire companies and that social security is an evil communist plot. Of that all liberals really to not believe in capital punishment nor do they own guns and that they grill aborted fetuses on Labor Day. I think that you are the one stuck in the meantal land of extremism and cannot or do not want to see grey.
     
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    Or because it's the scientific term.....

    The CDC uses those.
     
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    But they do. Why the misdirection by you? You should try honesty.

    https://www.cdc.gov/pregnancy/infections.html
    Some infections before and during pregnancy can hurt both you and your developing fetus. They can cause serious illness, birth defects, and lifelong disabilities, such as hearing loss or learning problems. Here are 10 tips to help prevent infections before and during pregnancy:
    1. Protect yourself from Zika virus.
      Zika virus can be passed from a pregnant woman to her fetus during pregnancy or to her baby around the time of birth
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    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/fet2a2005.pdf
    Maternal conditions affecting the fetus should be coded to categories P00-P04. Conditions in the fetus can be coded to any category in the list of valid codes (Table 1) other than P00-P04 but will most often be coded to categories P05-P96 (Perinatal conditions) or Q00-Q99 (Congenital anomalies).

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/documents/fasdbrochure_final.pdf

    https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/infertility/index.htm
     
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    This is one of those times I hope Wapo's source (The CDC worker) is straight up lying.

    How dumb can this administration be.
     
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    Why do you think that is? Death common in our society. Tens of thousands of kids die each year from accidents but nobody gives a **** because they don't want any restrictions on their guns, cars, swimming pools or other life pleasures. A few losses are just the price of doing business, eh?
     
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    Who is "we" and why do you think I'd be screaming anything?
     

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