Who are the liberals on Fox News ?

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who are the liberals over on Fox News ?

    It is said you shouldn't be able to tell the political views of a real journalist.

    For example no body before 1968 knew that Walter Cronkite was a flaming pantywaist liberal until in 1968 when Cronkite told a big liberal lie about the Tet Offense in Vietnam. It was one big lie that would change the outcome of the war in Vietnam.

    Greta over on Fox News is a good journalist, for years I could never figure out if she was a conservative or a liberal.



     
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    Fox News Anchor Megyn Kelly Comes Out as an Independent

    She wears many shoes at FOX :)

    She always gives me a hard time :roflol:
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    This guy is pretty liberal

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    Fox comes by far closest to being Fair and Balanced. But the way they slammed Trump in the opening of the debate will not be forgotten. Now if they treat Hillary that way, or Biden, they might regain some credibility, but they lost a lot in that single moment. Megyn was trying to be the break out political star instead of focusing on the candidates. She should have stuck to politics. She will never be forgiven for being so slutty and skanky in that so-called debate opening.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It came out a few months ago that Kelly was an independent and I always thought she was a conservative Republican. But she still hasn't come out if she's a conservative or liberal or just confused and is in the middle. :smile:

    Now Greta you could never tell. Who would have thought that someone who's a big fan of a brutal contact sport where there are winners and losers and injuries and owns stock in the Green Bay Packers would be a liberal ?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scuttlebutt is that Kelly got her orders from upstairs to take out Trump and Kelly's response was "I like my job at Fox News and want to keep my job at Fox News."
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speaking of Bob Beckel, I was an avid fan of THE FIVE. Once Beckel left, I hardly ever watch it. Perhaps 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there as I surf through channels. Williams sucks in Beckel's old role.
     
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    bob beckel, juan williams, sheppard smith, alan comes, and Martha MacCallum are all liberals on foxnews.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I view Megan Kelly as a smaller government fiscal conservative social moderate don't know her views on abortion or gay marriage she has never gave any of her opinions on either subject that I know of
    I have seen her just as tough on republicans as democrats what she wont stand for is any bull crap And because democrats like to spew bull crap more then republicans they get called out more often
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was the "big liberal lie" on the Tet offensive?

    As I recall the lie was the brass telling everyone that the NVA was suppressed and defeated and incapable of mounting an offensive.
     
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    You might want to ask, "Where are there any conservative Christians in any positions of power at CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, Fusion, Al Jazerra or so on?"

    They can be counted on one hand.

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    He was certainly entertaining
     
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    Yes it was Tet. The Vietcong were toast and no longer a viable force. I never heard that about the NVA. We won the big battle but lost the war due to the press. It was the first time war was brought right into your living room and it wasnt pretty.
     
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    I think Martha is more like Kelly
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The big lie was that Cronkite made it sound like that we were defeated during Tet of 68 when the truth was we kicked their butts to a bloody pulp and the light was at the end of the tunnel. An entire NVA division was completely eliminated from the NVA Order of Battle at Hue. The VC were no longer a viable fighting force. From that day on you saw NVA officers leading the VC.

    After Tet is when Gen. Giap admitted that the U.S. military couldn't be defeated on the battlefield. Gen. Giap talked to Ho Chi Minh about throwing in the towle and asking for a conditional surrender but Cronkite went on television and told one big freaking lie and the public sentiment changed about the Vietnam War. This is when North Vietnam government said hold on, we can still win this war, not on the battlefield but on the streets of America.

    Gen. Giap's new strategy was to wage a war of attrition, keep the war going and no longer trying to take ground and holding it but just killing as many American troops as possible and then high tailing it back across the border into the sanctuaries of Laos and Cambodia. Soon the Americans will get tired of the war and demand that the troops be brought home so liberals can spit at them.

    Nixon would be elected President in November of 68 with a promise that he would carry out the will of the American people and bring the troops home. I was already in-country when the word came down of the withdraw from Vietnam. The first to leave the Nam was the 3rd Mar. Div. (back to Okinawa) then my unit who were attached to the 3rd Mar. Div, 1/26, 1/13 and the other units of the 5th Mar. Div. would be going back to Camp Pendleton for the 5th Mar Div. to be deactivated.

    For a whole day I thought I was going home early. But my bubble was burst when we were informed the only Marines who would be going home early were the short timers, ever swinging dick will full fill his 13 months tour of duty in Vietnam.

    Then I looked around me to the short timers who would be going home early and they didn't look like happy campers. I asked what gives ? I ended up being on the receiving end of a lot of (*)(*)(*)(*), they saying "You don't get it do you ? They aren't going to let us win this war when there was light was at the end of the tunnel."
     
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    That he was. He had a good thing going and he ruined it himself. But in my opinion that show isn't the same without him. The Five is on right now and here I am at the computer without enough gumption to turn on the TV. Sometimes an odd ball makes a program.
     
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    I don't have cable now, but when I did, I always watched anything ol' Bob was on.

    This was an especially fun moment, on Hannity:

    [video=youtube;cYCUe0OczNM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYCUe0OczNM[/video]
     
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    He was my favorite liberal even if he did make me want to throw something at the screen half the time. He could really make you laugh. A real tough guy

    Now my favorite lib is Kristen Powers
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    and Julie Raginsky
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    My favorite new female host
    Trish Regan
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    Hmmmmm.

    This is more in line of my understanding:

    During the second half of 1967 the administration had become alarmed by criticism, both inside and outside the government, and by reports of declining public support for its Vietnam policies.[19] According to public opinion polls, the percentage of Americans who believed that the U.S. had made a mistake by sending troops to Vietnam had risen from 25 percent in 1965 to 45 percent by December 1967.[20] This trend was fueled not by a belief that the struggle was not worthwhile, but by mounting casualty figures, rising taxes, and the feeling that there was no end to the war in sight.[21] A poll taken in November indicated that 55 percent wanted a tougher war policy, exemplified by the public belief that "it was an error for us to have gotten involved in Vietnam in the first place. But now that we're there, let's win – or get out."[22] This prompted the administration to launch a so-called "Success Offensive", a concerted effort to alter the widespread public perception that the war had reached a stalemate and to convince the American people that the administration's policies were succeeding. Under the leadership of National Security Advisor Walt W. Rostow, the news media then was inundated by a wave of effusive optimism. Every statistical indicator of progress, from "kill ratios" and "body counts" to village pacification, was fed to the press and to the Congress. "We are beginning to win this struggle" asserted Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey on NBC's Today show in mid-November. "We are on the offensive. Territory is being gained. We are making steady progress."[23] At the end of November, the campaign reached its climax when Johnson summoned Westmoreland and the new U.S. Ambassador, Ellsworth Bunker, to Washington, D.C., for what was billed as a "high level policy review". Upon their arrival, the two men bolstered the administration's claims of success. From Saigon, pacification chief Robert Komer asserted that the CORDS pacification program in the countryside was succeeding, and that sixty-eight percent of the South Vietnamese population was under the control of Saigon while only seventeen percent was under the control of the Vietcong.[24] General Bruce Palmer, Jr., one of Westmoreland's three Field Force commanders, claimed that "the Viet Cong has been defeated" and that "He can't get food and he can't recruit. He has been forced to change his strategy from trying to control the people on the coast to trying to survive in the mountains."[25]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tet_Offensive

    To win public support, the administration created the false perception that the enemy was defeated and incapable of a major offensive. Tet, while a defeat for the NVA, put the lie to what the administration was saying.

    I don't recall anyone saying the the Tet Offensive was a US defeat. Can you link to a quote where he says that?
     
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    A better question to ask who are the conservatives on the other news networks
    we know for a fact there are liberals on Fox
     
  20. Dale Cooper

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    And you know the answer.

    A big fat ZERO.

    Therein lies the difference.
     
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    Kirsten Powers is a liberal, and she's pretty hot for 40+ years old.
     
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    Greta van Susteren is a Liberal by choice.She came directly from CNN { Kingdom
    of Liberals } and a show called - Burden of Proof -.She was a cocky little Liberal
    on that show.I instantly grew to dislike her.
    She stole the Fox gig when for whatever reason Fox decided to cast aside a
    really great person for that gig.That being Rita Cosby.Cosby was gutsy and
    not afraid to do whatever it took.She covered breaking news like Live Hurricanes
    or whatever like a true investigative journalist.Van Susteren has and had No
    background in Journalism,yet got the Fox gig.First order of business was
    to improve her dog looks.She had cosmetic surgery in and around her eyes.
    She Dresses like a dog still.You'll never see her in a dress or skirt.Just Guy
    pants and shirt or the occasional turtleneck.I think she'd make for the perfect
    Butch.I still don't like her.Based on the way she has a bleeding heart.
    She went out of her way to Interview the insane Sociopath Joran van der Sloot
    and she let him control the interview and totally con her.
    Susteren also was asked early on as Fox host of who she voted for in the last couple
    elections.She would not answer.Typical Liberal sneak.
    She can however be counted on to waste inordinate time with Media driven stories
    especially ones concerning true crime or recent crime.
    She has a polar opposite sense of who done it as opposed to a really clever
    mind like Perry Mason or Sherlock Holmes.However she thinks herself in their
    league.She's a munchkin of a crime solver.She also plays favorites.Like her
    pal Ted Williams who is a former homicide detective.Bernie Grimm no longer has
    use for his association with the " plays favorites " Van Susteren.
    The real question should be ... Whatever happened to Rita Cosby.?
    She did have a raspy voice but was a gem of a correspondent.Kind of a female
    version of the late John Holliman.
    May he rest in eternal peace and splendor.
     
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    Yeah and also Like Totally,fer sure ... clueless.
    I mean,anyone working at Tina Brown's rag { Daily Beast }.
    No question Powers is a hottie.But her ability to debate is teen stuff.
    Her favorite expression used almost in every debate is :
    " Well I don't understand " blah blah blah.
    With variations on the theme like ... " Well what I don't understand is " ... more
    blah blah blah
     
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    You really shouldn't use Wiki especially when it comes to the Vietnam War. It's very likely was written by a liberal and it well recognized that Wikipedia has adopted cultural-marxism revisionist history as the rule of thumb.

    Tell us exactly how you remembered it back in 1968.

    We all saw the war differently.

    Remember when you were a FNG and after your first fire fight you needed to talk to someone about what had just happened so you find another FNG and you find out you both saw the fire fight differently.


    From the Wikipedia "Talk Page" from the Tet article.
     
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    Yeah, that's Bob.
     

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