Who are the liberals on Fox News ?

I love Megan, she is the only person on TV that I usually agree with 100%. Being so it seems like she has the same leanings I have in my signature. Whether or not she is anything specific, she does a great job at hiding any of her opinions and asking questions with an amazing poker face.

Gretta a Liberal? Huh, didnt know that, not sure if I agree with it but he is pretty fair in the middle.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, FOX leans right like CNN leans left. And MSNBC is just way the hell out in left field.

There are plenty of Liberals, Alan Combs, Bob Beckle, Sheapord Smith, Juan Williams, Greta V. and my personal favorite Kristen Powers, who'm I agree with more than most conservatives. Anyways, there are plenty and they are very influential, I feel they do a far better job at showing the other side than CNN does, again I don't feel MSNBC is worth comparing.

The massive majority of Fox news is completely middle of the road commentators simply giving the news. Brett Bair in the middle, Greta as the article says leans left, Oreilly is in the middle except on social stuff so he leans right, Megan is in the middle and Hannity is a far right nut job to finish it off.

Also they have two amazing shows where many different opinions are present at all times in The Five and Outnumbered. While again it leans to the right in having usually one more right than left leaning person, the left person usually talks at least twice as much making up for it. Point being all ideas are intelligently argued and debated.

CNN has a left leaning person tell you about the stance of the right. Unfortunately that still comes out with a left twist, but at least they do try. They lineup is similar, they just lean left.

MSNBC again, lol

To prove my point, if you look at their lineup for the entire day, they have people that are as bat crazy to the left as Sean Hannity is to the right. Its blatantly ridiculous propaganda and it cracks me up when people say its a balance to FOX.

Again, Fox has
-Sean Hannity

MSNBC has
- AL Sharpton
- Chris Matthews
- Rachael Maddow
- Chris Hayes
- Lawrence O'donnell
- Tamron Hall
- and Jose Diaz-Balart

Noone watches MSNBC not only because the ideals are crazy partisan left which the US is not, but they say the same damn thing from the same damn point of view all day!

 

I generally find it more reliable than unsupported blather written by a conservative that has adopted cultural conservative revisitionist history as a rule of thumb.

The Wiki article is consistent with my understanding. Your version is not. The fact you utterly failed to support your claim that Cronkite said we were defeated proves my point.

Where is the quote of Cronkite saying the US was defeated?

Was someone saying something about revisionist history?

???

Despite its heavy casualty toll, and its failure to inspire widespread rebellion among the South Vietnamese, the Tet Offensive proved to be a strategic success for the DRV. Before Tet, Westmoreland and other representatives of the Johnson administration had been claiming that the end of the war was in sight; now, it was clear a long struggle still lay ahead.
http://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/tet-offensive

The scope of the offensive stunned the White House, the media, and the American people. Adding to the impact of the surprise attacks was the fact that they followed in the wake of repeated reassurances from both the military and the Johnson administration that progress was being made in the war and that the end was in sight.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...d-awe-of-tet-offensive-shattered-us-illusions

Yet the Tet Offensive was a major blow to US military pride. In late 1967 the US had been told by General Westmoreland that the NLF had taken such heavy losses in open combat that they would be incapable of maintaining any military momentum in 1968.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/vietnam-war/the-tet-offensive/

 

I'm a conservative and I watch MSNBC for the laughs. They are batsh-t crazy.

 

http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/cronkites-vietnam-blunder-7185?page=2

 

Don't forget Geraldo...., he's carried Kool-Aid in large quantities on The Five. Makes one want to puke. Eric constantly looks like he's going to take him out any minute.

 

Thanks. Nothing in there about Conkrite saying the US was defeated as you claimed. Proving my point about "reliability".

Conkrite's shock was an echo of that of the American people, not the creator of it. We had been told by the administration and military that the enemy was defeated and incapable of a major offensive. *That* is why Conkrite (and the American people) were shocked. Your article makes it sound like he went over and just was shocked because there was a war going on.

Your article doesn't even mention the fact that the Administration and military mislead the American people about the success of the war. Why is that?

The shock was a reflection that our own leaders were not being honest with us and that the scores of thousands and hundreds of millions of dollars we'd expended had not produced the results they claimed. The false reporting was the administration and military leadership, not Conkrite. Conkrite was prescient in his view that the war was probably unwinnable, though it took 4 more years and thousands more lives before we finally got out.

 

How about a vastly more defining misrepresentation.That in fact,Obama and Hillary
with their Arab Spring and arming rebels { supposed Freedom Fighters } In fact
CREATED ISIS and are responsible for the current upheavel and slaughter that
is onging in the Middle East.This dopey meme that it's ALL Just Bashir Assad's fault.
because he's a Bad man.Was Assad a bad man 15 years ago when he took over for
his father.Implementing Syrian reforms.Certainly Assad was No Saddam Hussein.
he also wasn't meddling when Iraqi Freedom moved alondside his Syria.
All it took was One Huge well placed and strategic lie that Assad Gassed his people.
When in fact there is No proof of that.Just Urban myth alleging it.Alex Jones actually
got a hold of Video showing Terrorist Rebels shooting rockets loaded with gas into
Syria.A video posted on YouTube in august of 2013 shows the FSA { Free Syrian Army }
or Rebel forces launching a sarin gas attack on a Syrian village.
Another Video posted on YouTube appears to show Syrian Rebel forces loading
a canister of nerve gas on a rocket,presumably to be fired on civilians.
There are also images of seized rebel arsenal from Jobar that look identical
to the canister in that YouTube video.
I think Assad was being framed and used as a world bad guy in order to take
' over Syria.In the same way Libya was overtaken.All it took was word of mouth.
Just repeat the huge lie that Bashar-al Assad gassed his people.Just repeat and
regurgitate and before long every Fox pundit buys into the ploy.
Like Fox did with the Birther meme.No one at Fox would touch the Birther
business.Or even bring up the ' Natural Born Citizen ' debate.

 

Off topic rant not worthy of response.

 

But it did catch yer attention. Because after reading endless gobbledegook
of inanity,every so often it does the soul good to read hard truth.
In todays climate,the hard truth is not easily come by.

 

Geraldo is the worst. I cant even believe they hired that clown.

Hes been busted multiple times, straight up lying, and inventing reports.

 

As usual you have a comprehension problem. I never said Cronkite said we were defeated during Tet of 68, I said Cronkite made it sound that we were defeated. And Cronkite did say the war in Vietnam was "unwinnable." That sounds like defeat to me.

Stop defending Cronkite, he got it wrong and on that day in late February of 1968 when Cronkite took to the air saying the war was unwinnable a red flag went up, could Walter Cronkite be wearing panties and is a flaming liberal ? Ends up he was but like I said, you shouldn't be able to tell the politics of a good journalist. Cronkite got it wrong and like most liberals they are always wrong.

 

Those of us who were there know the truth. We kicked ass and then were told go home its over. It was again the fact that the war was on TV and people didn't like seeing all those American loses. It was the civilians who gave up not the military who never lost a real battle

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After Tet that was the case

 

Unwinnable and stalemate are not the same thing as defeated.

I disagree. I've provided the evidence from numerous sources showing how the Administration and military mislead the American people, and this was the cause of the reaction to Tet.

Cronkite was spot on in his assessment. Nonetheless, we wasted four more years and lives and dollars to prove him so.

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The said the same thing before Tet too. And yet the Vietnamese continued their campaign of guerrilla warfare.

They weren't going to leave. It was their country. We were going to leave.

A lesson Americans never seem to learn.

 

No it's not.

The MSM went with the Obama administration that it was all about a You Tube video.

While Fox News stuck with the facts, the rest of the news agencies decided to protect their boy (Barack) and girl (Hillary) and report it was all about a video.

 

You would have never made it through Marine Corps boot camp thinking like that.

You never played high school or college football have you ?

Vince Lombardi would have banned you from ever attending a Packer game.

 

In Gen. Giaps own words in his biography, Giap said after getting his ass kicked during Tet that from that day on he knew the U.S. military couldn't be defeated on the battlefield.

But with the help of the media and the counter culture movement (liberals) the war could still be won on the streets of America.

 

Then please explain what that has to do about the Tet offensive. Thanks.

 

Yes the politicians lied but that's what politicians do. The fact remains after Tet the Vietcong were done. The NV counted on the weakness of the American people in fighting a long drawn out war and that's s why they won not by defeating our military

 

LOL You're right. Why the hell would I want to?

Good for him. Doesn't change the fact that Conkrite was spot on, as history proved.

 

Sure. Remind me how those 40,000 or so boys died in Vietnam 1968- again?

 

To be one of the few the proud the Marines

He helped make it happen

 

Good for you. Thanks for your service. But my thinking would not fit in with my perception of the marines at all.

It was the military that was saying Tet couldn't happen. So blame them.

We weren't going to "win" in Vietnam in any event.

 

Many were my friends . That's what happens in war. I joined the Marines right after Tet in march of 68 and was in the last all volunteer platoon to graduate from PI. My bunk mate was from the town next to mine. He became a sniper and died in Nam 6 months later.

 

No they did not

Just as we will never win in the ME. The idea that everyone wants democracy or wants a government like ours is false. Most of us did not support the war our only thought was to support each other and go back to the world. Having seen the face of war I wish it on no one. I certainly would not fight for the government we have now

 

Lol, that's funny.

And great example of another lib blaming everyone but himself.