Who Are You Voting For and Why?

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  1. dudeman

    dudeman New Member

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    Ideologically, I would vote for Gary Johnson (with the exception of his ridiculous VAT proposal). Reality, Romney. At the age of 43, this will be the third time I will vote Republican in an otherwise Democratic and Independent background. McCain in 08, Christie in 09 and Romney in 12. There will be no USA in 2015 if Obama is elected again. Got plenty of ammo either way. Bring it on.
     
  2. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

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    And so you're voting for the party that controls half the government now, and controlled other parts before Obama?

    Newsflash: in your analogy, YOU are the person continuing to drive on the bad tire. By continuing to support our horrible two party system.
     
  3. BullsLawDan

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    Explain why voting for someone who does not represent your ideals,but has (according to polls) what you consider a realistic chance of winning is NOT "wasting your vote," but voting for someone who matches your ideals, but whom you think can't win - only because you and others like you refuse to vote for them - IS "wasting your vote."
     
  4. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Frustrated doesn't even begin to describe it.
     
  5. Craftsman

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    I am voting for President Obama, he shows true leadership and always has.
    With any luck Congress will once again be in Democrats hands and that will ensure the survival of the nation.
    I fear that if the republican gain control again, our economy can't survive it.
    All we need to do is look to Europe to see what the right wing will do to this country, only it will be worse here.
    We will have another republican depression, one that I fear we can't get out of.
    America will be the 2 class 3rd world nation the top 1% wishes it to be.
     
  6. Craftsman

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    "different" how?
    What is mittens offering that we haven't already tried and KNOW doesn't work?
     
  7. Craftsman

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    President Obama already has the Hispanic vote!
     
  8. NoPartyAffiliation

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    I like both these post even though they are diametrically opposed. Why? They at least offer legitimate reasons for their views. One wants to maintain the current balance on the USSC, the other cites legitimate concerns about Romney and the Ryan budget.
    Whether I agree with them, I like that it's not the usual blather about the "Socialist Kenyan will destroy America" or "GOP will kill everyone but the rich!" and so on.
     
  9. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    So then explain why Obama waited for the election season do say he will make a way to go around congress to give illegals work permits
     
  10. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Slight correction: he didn't have to go through congress, legally.
     
  11. tkolter

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    Obama and the Democrats at least for the Federal offices.

    Reason is simple to protect the health care reform if he is re-elected the fight is over if it passes the Supreme Court even if the mandate if cut out he has options that don't involve Congress at all, but no one will be able to repeal it passed his veto. And if the Republicans get in they intend to destroy that law and then turn on the social safety net as a poor person why would I vote for them its not in MY best interests.
     
  12. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Which is usually a much smaller, incapable tire that will only get you so far... at a certain speed, no less.
     
  13. injest

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    but will allow you to make it to safety without further damaging your car.
     
  14. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    But PPACA isn't in your best interests. The President and the party betrayed you and gave more help to insurance companies and Big Pharma.

    Single-payer is in your best interests, not PPACA.
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    And Obama and Biden haven't been embarrassing?

    The United States is at it's weakest worldwide than it has been since Carter was President and even more so than then. What "good job" are you talking about, the rest of the world simply lifts it's middle finger to us.

    He had the time and offers just more of the same at a time when unemployment is trending back up, GDP is trending back down.
    There is nothing quick about 4 years. Why do you want more of the same?
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    He had a completely compliant congress his first two years and still has a Democrat Senate so what are you talking about? He got everything he wanted the first two years.

    The stimulus - failed
    Bank reform - failed
    Health care - failed
    Mortgage programs - failed

    Last time the Republicans controlled the WH and the Congress we had 52 months of full employment, a strong economy, and falling deficits for three years in a row down to $161 billion.............why wouldn't you want that again?
     
  17. BullsLawDan

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    What makes you believe that? More specifically, what about Obama, distinct from Romney, makes you believe that?
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    Obama and the Democrats will pass massive tax hikes and regulations which will cripple our economy while supporting measures to make a solid majority of citizens dependent on government, takers, and a minority forced to pay for it, contributors. Romney and the Republicans will keep tax rates low an cut corporate taxes to create private sector jobs and expand the tax base thus increasing revenues making more people contributors and fewer takers.
     
  19. Serfin' USA

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    I don't agree with libertarians on all economic policy. I agree with some of their economic views, but it's mostly their social and foreign policy views that I agree with them on.

    That being said, one thing I definitely agree with them on concerning economic policy is that they're against bailouts. Both Democrats and Republicans supported the bank bailouts. Democrats also supported the automaker bailouts.

    As a libertarian, Johnson is against corporate welfare, which is, by itself, a good enough reason to vote for him.

    He's also against the NDAA detention clause, the Patriot Act, and the various internet bills like CISPA that Congress has been trying to pass. Those are also good reasons to support him, since both Democrats and Republicans have voted for these things.
     
  20. Dan40

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    I'm voting for Romney. A record of experience and success over inexperience, incompetence and failure. Seldom in history has there been a more obvious choice.
    Reagan over Carter was the only one close. This time the incumbent is even more incompetent than Carter was.
     
  21. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Clearly, you can't tell the difference between Carter and Obama.

    Romney has experience in business, yes - but his term as governor of Massachusetts shows that he doesn't know how to turn that experience into success in government.
     
  22. Bluesguy

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    Yes as a private executive administrator, as a government administrator, as an administrator of a NGO, as a leader. All successfully done so.

    False, his term was very successful. You aren't listening to the liberal spin on it are you?
     
  23. Dan40

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    Your liberal brainwashing is clearly showing. Even if you could prove that Romney was only moderately successful, which you cannot prove by any unbiased sources, b.o. has no record of ever accomplishing anything economic prior to being elected by fools. And his economic record since, his legislative record, his budget proposals, (NOT ONE EVER PASSED BY A DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL HOUSE], His fiscal insanity, SIX TRILLION DOLLARS in new debt 38% of the 224 year total US debt, and his international statesmanship are ALL records of complete, dismal failure.
     
  24. The Real American Thinker

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    Nope, just citizens of Massachusetts and the facts.
     
  25. The Real American Thinker

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    Oh, right. I forgot. Anyone that doesn't like Romney is a brainwashed liberal. You so silly!

    So? I don't like him, didn't vote for him, and won't vote for him. What the hell is your point?
     

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