Who Are You Voting For and Why?

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  1. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Killing OBL - success
    Auto Industry Bailout - success
    Ousting Q'daffi without one American dead - success
    Corporate Profits - success

    Healthcare hasn't failed yet...80% of it hasn't even been implemeted
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    And Obama ran the intelligence operation that found him? He was on the mission that carried it out? What you do show is that you are so lacking in things to try to make him look successful you have to attribute the taking out of OBL to Obama rather than those who were responsible, our intelligence agencies and the military and in particular the Navy SEAL team that DID kill him, I don't recall Obama was there.

    After doing what Romney said would have to be done and sticking the taxpayers with a $26 billion loss on the stock he bought, and sticking the credit holders and suppliers in order to payoff the unions.

    And it wasn't an Auto Industry bailout, it was a GM and Chrysler bailout. The auto industry in my neck of the woods which happens to be a very good customer of mine was and is doing quite well in spite of him giving an unfair advantage to their competition.

    Leading from behind refusing to come to the aid of the revolt resulting in thousands dying unnecessarily.

    And he is responsible for that because? Try in spite of him.

    By the measures he said would make it a success it has, the cost are higher, it will cost us jobs not create them, it will lessen the majority of our health care choices.
     
  3. Dan40

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    Auto industry bailout a success? The American taxpayer is still owed over $40 billion dollars. How is that a success? The rightful bondholders were cheated out of their money illegally, how is that a success. Fiat now owns Chrysler, how is that a success?

    b.o. bombed and committed ground troops to Libya in violation of American law. How is that a success. And Libya will SURELY go radical Islam. How is that a success?

    Corporate profits? What did b.o. do for or against corporate profits? Corporations are making record profits because they have cut back on employment and eliminated waste. The lead that government should follow.

    obamacare was obviously UNCONSTITUTIONAL the day it was passed. The majority of the American people knew that, said so, and still do. The mandate will not stand and not a penny of the claimed half a trillion will be cut from Medicare for funding obamacare. No mandate funding, no Medicare funding, and the largest, most expensive partisan bill passed in the history of the USA will have not $1.00 of funding. Not a cent to pay for a multi-TRILLION dollar bill. HOW do you call that a success?

    The ridiculous, mindless, brainwashing of liberals is beyond belief.
     
  4. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    No he used a department saying they will not enforce the law and give illegals work permits. That will go over great for law abiding immigrants and the unemployed.
     
  5. ptif219

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    Auto bailout was a union bailout and we will never see the money paid back. None of what you claim is true except that the seals not Obama killed OBL. Funny how all those seals are dead now isn't it
     
  6. Dan40

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    A Real American Thinker would understand that the point is that change at the top is essential. Never before, more essential, in the history of this nation. Will Romney be great? Doubtful. Will he be an improvement over b.o.? The odds that he will are about 99.999 to .001 that he will. Romney might be mediocre, and he'll still be a vast improvement over b.o.
     
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    Dan40's comments are the key. Obama is either illiterate or stupid (i.e. he can't read or refuses to read the laws that he is allegedly an expert at).
     
  8. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    I fail to see how a bill created by conservatives and passed by liberals is "the most partisan bill passed in the history of the USA."
     
  9. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Actually, he's deciding how to enforce it. It's the same as cops ignoring millions of speeding drivers.
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    No, a real American thinker recognizes the same old BS when he sees it. Romney is not a whit different than Obama, and Obama was not a whit different than Bush.

    That's just reality. You're replacing a D with an R and accomplishing nothing.
     
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    Exactly. The single greatest problem in our nation today is anyone who thinks that Democrats and Republicans - in their actual actions, not what they say - are measurably different.

    Democrats and Republicans are like two wrestlers in a WWE match. People who root for one or the other are rubes, duped by their carny act into thinking they have a real fight on their hands.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Actually he has created a group of people not subject to the law and a new status for them. So if the SCOTUS upholds the Arizona law, and Arizona follows the law as written by Congress and takes a illegal 20 year old who comes under Obama's new law into custody what is the Obama ICE going to do, obey the law Congress passed or the decree from King Obama?
     
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    How are Obama and Bush the same on tax policy?
     
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    Ron Paul. who else is there?
     
  15. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    It's not an either or situation. For starters, they don't have amnesty, they have work visas. I know Republicans are chomping at the bit to send all the brown people away, but this doesn't keep them from doing so.
     
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    He continued the Bush tax cuts, for one thing. Can you point out any meaningful differences?
     
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    As a former card-carrying Republican, I will be voting for Obama. I detest the way my grand old party is in total lockdown by Grover Norquist. We don't make our representatives sign pledges in the American system of things.
     
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    I will be voting against Obama rather than for Romney. The only two choices avaiable in this state.

    And why not try to get politicians to carry through on the promises they made to get elected in the first place.
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    If they don't already, what makes you think some stupid pledge is going to make them?

    It's for show, nothing more.
     
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    While i don't agree with you on all points, I like your posts. Refreshingly rational and intelligent.

    I'm voting for Obama based on three differences in policy.
    1. Obama and Dems want to strengthen DF. The GOP has pledged to repeal Dodd-Frank without replacing it. More bailouts, anyone?
    2. Obama / The dems have tried to close the loopholes used in offshoring American funds and jobs through the Dutch Irish etc... . Romney / GOP has vowed to protect them / shut down said efforts.
    3. Obama has proposed cutting defense by over $100B, then more next year. Reallocating to SOFs, Intel & Tech. That is the only thing I've seen from either party that cuts spending in a serious way.
    As opposed to the Ryan budget which will supposedly cut the budget in under four thousand years and doesn't specifcy the tax loopholes it will cut.

    Other than those policy positions, I don't see any real difference - with the exception of which specific groups each side panders to.
     
  21. Dan40

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    Then you obviously will not be voting because Romney or obama WILL be the next president. And voting for some obscure third party no chance nobody only sends the message that you decided your vote was worthless. Who finished 3rd in 1996? In 2000? In 2004? In 2008? What effect did those "messages" have?

    NONE!
     
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    Romney, because I like working and I'm sure I will have a job if he's elected. If Obama is re-elected, things will change so fast half of us here on the Forum will be out of work.
     
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    Gary Johnson. Why?

    "I'm finding myself really angry over spending and the deficit. I'm finding myself really angry over what's happening in the Middle East, the decision to stay in Afghanistan indefinitely. I'm angry about cap and trade. And I've been on record for a long time on the failed war on drugs."

    He's a lot like me.
     
  24. ptif219

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    No it means we will not vote for who politicians think we should vote for. The goal is to get more people to vote third party and show the GOP and Democrats we are tired of their monopoly and abuse of power.
     
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    You think anybody believes you were former GOP and you are now voting for the far left Obama? Get real Obama is destroying this country.
     

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