Who Are You Voting For and Why?

Gary Johnson

He's the only limited government, small government, freedom espousing candidate running - hence, it's a no-brainer.

2016 there might not even be an election... by 2020, I fully expect the U.S. to be either collapsed, or nearing the brink - shouldn't be too much longer now.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

 

I DID vote for for GW first time around, and I am still a registered R, but it really doesn't matter to me what you believe. And Obama has SAVED this country.

 

Excuse ME, sir, but it is MY right to vote that MY constitution in MY country gives me. YOU, on the other hand, have NO right to tell ME what MY vote means, because that is MY decision.

Clear?

I refuse to play this retarded game of voting for the same god(*)(*)(*)(*) politicians that don't do anything different from each other. You can keep doing it like a dog going back to his own vomit all you want, it's DESTRUCTION. It's IDIOCY. And it's un-American.

So yeah, I'll vote for whoever the hell I want to, and I don't care what you think about it, Dan. So shove that stick back up your ass and stop trying to bully me into doing the same stupid crap you are doing.

 

So let's see. The Founding Fathers fought bravely for our right to vote for whomever we want. And Dan thinks that everyone should march in tune and throw away that right because of the odds.
I respect Thinker's vote more than Dan's because Thinker can intelligently discuss policy positions etc... that have led to his vote, whereas Dan just parrots gibberish and really seems to has no idea of specifically why he's voting for Romney - other than this is the opinion that has currently been fed to him.
I have friends who are voting all over the place. I respect anyone's vote for Obama, Romney or Johnson - as long as it's informed.

 

That's the thing that depresses me. Very few people are willing to debate ACTUAL policy, they just want to debate Birther nonsense, partisan politics, race...

I want to discuss policy, dangit.

 

Then let's do that!

I'm voting for Obama based on three differences in policy.
1. Obama and Dems want to strengthen DF. The GOP has pledged to repeal Dodd-Frank without replacing it. More bailouts, anyone?
2. Obama / The dems have tried to close the loopholes used in offshoring American funds and jobs through the Dutch Irish etc... . Romney / GOP has vowed to protect them / shut down said efforts.
3. Obama has proposed cutting defense by over $100B, then more next year. Reallocating to SOFs, Intel & Tech. That is the only thing I've seen from either party that cuts spending in a serious way.
As opposed to the Ryan budget which will supposedly cut the budget in under four thousand years and doesn't specifcy the tax loopholes it will cut.

Comments, counterpoints or criticism (of an analytical nature, that is)?

 

You mean murdering innocent women and children in Afghanistan and Pakistan with drone attacks?
You mean committing the US to Afghanistan for another 12 years at minimum?
You mean needlessly involving ourselves in Libya and now beating the war drums for Syria?
You mean bullying Iran, a sovereign nation, to abandoning their supposed nuclear weapons program?

If that's your idea of a "really good" foreign policy, then I would agree that Obama has a "really good" foreign policy.

Probably the same way that Obama increased military spending without raising taxes on millionaires or balancing the budget.

 

You mean the Libya that Boehner, Cantor and McCain were screaming we should "Do something!" about? That Libya? The one where he showed us how to get in, get done, not lose lives and then Ta DA, an exit strategy? That Libya?
Obama is beating the drums in Syria? Iran? Hmmm. I think you have him confused with Romney.

Personally, I think we should have been out of AFGH as of May, 2012. But you're thinking the GOP is offering BETTER ideas on foreign policy? Pardon my giggles...

 

That's nothing. wait until Obama rolls out his Domestic Policy against Terrorists (NDAA)

 

This is my biggest beef with Obama - he should have vetoed it or at least made a fuss. But to call it "his" is bullshlt. 90+% of Republicans voted for it. 90+ of Democrats voted for it. Not like he has sole ownership there. I'm pissed at ALL of them for that one.

 

Yet BUSH 100% OWNS every bill he signed. The covert liberal is again exposed.

 

That is so pitifully lame and whiny its ridiculous. obamacare was written by SEIU, ACORN and radical left wingnuts behind closed doors. And it was passed by Democrats ALONE. And many of them had to be bribed and coerced to vote for it, and many of them have now QUIT politics. [IN SHAME]

Brainstorming ideas many years ago is not CREATING a bill, A DECADE LATER, no matter how desperately you loony liberals want it to be so.

In business, one of the rules of brainstorming products, policies, procedures, marketing, anything, is that there are NO RULES. Any idea, no matter how wild is to be presented, and considered.

There is nothing in the 2803 page monstrosity that is obamacare from conservatives. Conservatives did not get to write a single word of the 2803 pages of insane junk. That the loony liberals included an Unconstitutional mandate that conservatives once looked at just shows how stupid the radical left can be.

 

except Obama tried to get teh Dream Act passed in 2010.. It passed the house with almost every GOP'er voting against it and 55,41 wasn't good enough in the senate because the GOP played Filly-Buster.

Doesn't mean the timing now wasn't politically beneficial.. but, Obama has been trying to do this for a cpl years now without any GOP support and their actual interference , so they're complaints now are disingenuous..

 

No, the complaints are completely justified. When a bill doesn't pass as many do not, then you gather more support for that bill and try again. In the USA we don't issue Royal Decrees. We obey the law. obama, the phony law PROFESSOR, does not know what law is. He is a power mad, egomaniacal, child.

 

as well anybody should be.The majority of congress is bought off and paid for by the zionests.

 

Blah blah blah. You really should consider being less of an ass. It doesn't make people want to listen to you.

1) It wasn't an "idea" being "brainstormed." it was actually written down as legislation by The Heritage Foundation (Sean Hannity's baby) in 1993 as an alternative to Hillarycare, and then Republicans in Congress tried to get it passed. They did this several times up until the bipartisan Wyden-Bennett bill of 2009. Many of those same Republicans are STILL in office.

Then 2010 rolls around and Obama jumps on board. Magically, the GOP is suddenly against it.

You, sir, are clueless about this bill's history.

 

I haven't studied Dodd-Frank much, so I won't comment.

Same as above.

Eh. The President's budget is definitely better than the mess that was the Ryan budget, but it still needs more cuts and more revenue.

There are three main things I wanted to see from the President that I not only never got, but got the complete OPPOSITE of:

1) End the wars and foreign occupations and stop the drone strikes. He added TO the wars and STEPPED UP the drone strikes.

2) Cut the waste from social welfare and reform the programs. No movement.

3) Pass ACTUAL good healthcare law - PPACA is corporatist, Republican bullsh!t. He should have passed single-payer (which is the socialist one, not PPACA).

 

Obama is destroying the country. It is comments like that that show you are a liberal

 

I'm clueless? A great deal less clueless evidently than SEIU, ACORN and far left radical liberal wingnuts that copied an unconstitutional idea and incorporated it into their health care plan.

City and state governments have underfunded their public worker benefit and pension plans by $4 TRILLION DOLLARS.
The federal government CANNOT establish a solid eligible voter list.
Cannot COUNT the # of persons in the USA accurately.
Gave us Amtrak, the USPS, and Fannie & Freddie
Gave us $400 dollar hammers for the military.
Gave us Solyndra and a dozen other failed GREEN energy fiasco's
Gave us Fast & Furious
Gave us $15,784,676,619,110.62 in national debt

And these are the people that you want to trust with Every One's health care?

Or you want a Socialist Stupidity that any one with a non retarded brain knows has ALWAYS failed.

Socialists live in a fantasy world. See: YOUR posts.

 

Yes it is, if Arizona follows the law as Congress wrote it and takes them into custody to be deported what is the ICE going to do follow the law as Congress wrote it and Arizona followed or as Emperor Obama has decried?

Yes they do, Obama declared amnesty for two years for a special class of people. Where does he get the Constitutional authority to do so?

Yes under a law and regulation he has declared. Where does he get the Constitutional authority to do so?

And I know Democrats are chomping at the bit to make asses out of themselves.

Do you want to discuss the issue like an adult of just hurl juvenile insults at other people?

 

ROFL under duress, had he had his way he would have repealed them as promised and as he is campaigning on doing.

Yes he believes we should grow the economy by hiring more government workers instead of expanding the private sector productive work force. He believes higher tax rates will bring in higher tax revenue. He believes you can spur private sector hiring by short term targeted tax cuts.

Romney believes quite the opposite.

 

And what of Obama policies do you find in favor of your previous Republican leanings?

 

Don't have write-in's? Although if it is more important to make sure Obama doesn't get reelected what is your problem?

 

So your choices in order are

Johnson
Obama
Romney

 

I think you forgot Van Jones,Obama's czars,the weatherman,Saul Alinsky and

(*)(*)(*)(*).. who else has Fox riled the idiots up about?

oh yeah George Soros..

It's almost like Glenn Beck was here himself..


to answer the Op, I will be voting for Obama. As a woman with 2 kid just getting ready to enter into College.. he offers them a better chance at lower interest rates for their student loans..

I am voting for him because I, myself, am 200% better off than I was 4 years.. My husband was laid off in late 2008.. I wrongly, started out on my own in the summer of 2008...You can't imagine how difficult it was.. But we're both doing very OK now.. I know that we're not indicative of an entire nation, but both of our selected fields do require people to be spending money. They weren't before.. they are now... and it's not just the local wealthy people who are spending.. in fact, it's the middle class that's doing all the 'job-growth'..the wealthy have simply stopped spending.. anecdotal, yes.. but still a valid reason for me.

Being a woman with two daughters, Obama and the Democrats are the only party that gives me a decision on my health. Ron Paul went over the 'no choice' wing of the Right, so Obama and the Dems are it.

I believe any consenting adult should be able to marry and share in the same benefits as every other married person..Obama's the better option for this.. a vote for Romney/GOP, kills this basic civil-right

Obama's better at Nat'l security.. Romney? Really? He's going to stare down Putin? "Gosh, Gee.. I.. I just don't know..darn ".. no, he's not.. Obama's stealth, love him or hate him.. he's OG stealth.. The way he's taken out OBL, Al Qaeda, the Somali pirates and Gaddafi? That was Golda Meir-ish.. He atleast has some guts and Putin, Assad... would be foolish to underestimate him.

I am not basing my vote on the debt/spending only because Romney will spend just as much as Obama, only he will spend it on tax cuts for people who don't need it and corps who still won't hire.. in the hopes of getting them to let go of some of their wealth, when the entire Bush years should have proved that they're not going to let go of it or create jobs with it no matter how low their taxes are or weak the regulation...Then he will gut programs I believe in.. Obama will spend, but atleast I will be in agreement with more of that spending than I will be with Romney/GOP.

I believe in man-made climate change,universal healthcare,choice,collective bargaining,higher eduction is good and the Consumer Financial and Protection Bureau..just to name a few.. Obama/Dems will benefit all of those things and many others.. Romney/GOP will not.

I do not believe Romney and/or the GOP is better for the country than Obama and/or the Dems..

So, for me, I'm going with Obama and the Dems.. because I think theirs is the better path..