Who does—and doesn’t—support sending U.S. troops to Ukraine

Looks like Russia should have invested more in phones. Now I'm starting to understand how the snipers are picking off so many top commanders.

Putin loses his 15TH top commander as Ukraine continues to take out elite troops: Colonel is latest to die as Russia suffers worst loss of military leaders since World War Two.

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‘The Ukrainians Are Listening’: Russia’s Military Radios Are Getting Owned.

Maybe bombing the cell phone towers wasn't a great idea?​

It's the little things.

And they aren't happy campers.

That allows Ukraine to listen in and pinpoint where Russian troops are.

Sounds like a cluster.

 

I think Putin is bluffing and we should call him on it. He is working a bluff perfectly. His test run was the Crimea. Now he is going for broke and we are letting him do it. Sure we are taking toys and money from his buddies but apparently he could care less and his buddies are not yet mad enough to kill him. Lets hope they get really mad and take care of business soon. In the mean time, I would do a little saber rattling myself.

 

It looks like Zelenskyy will accept the loss of some territory and neutrality in exchange for peace. Putin should take that deal and get his troops out of what is a trap that could spring on them at any moment.

If Putin insist on using WMD blackmail to annex Ukraine NATO will have to just say "no" and prepare for the worst. IOW, if Putin really is that dangerous it is better to deal with him now before a finishes his genocidal campaign in Ukraine.

It is unfortunate that we did not provide Ukraine with weapons systems capable of stopping a Russian invasion as soon as they gave up their nukes.

Taiwan: Prevention is the best cure.

 

Couldn't agree more. Squeeze the bastards harder and hope they kill Putin...he's bad for business

 

Ukraine may be able to eventually destroy the invasion force. The supply lines are vulnerable.

Ukraine could not invade and conquer Russia

 

I doubt that Ukraine is going to be able to destroy the Russian army and run it back over the border. We'll see though.

 

Cutting the supply lines would make an organized retreat very difficult. It would be a military catastrophe for Russia.
Putin and his generals should be considering the possibility of that happening.

 

You are assuming that the Ukraine military can maneuver behind the Russian army, cutting it off from the Russian border? That would be an amazing trick.

 

...are you counting militia and villagers as "military" as these are the guys that are doing a lot of damage in the rear areas...they're attacking supply columns, jamming radios, acting as FACs for the drone/bayraktar crews, laying traps, stealing tanks...you name it..right now the Ukrainians don't need to and would be stupid to engage full on with the Russians...they can just continue to peck away at them with there hit and run thing; demoralise the bastards even more....its killing the Russians..look at how many senior officers they've lost ffs!
Anyway its a fickle business....we'll see what happens....nothing good unless it ends soon

 

Ukraine reported numerous times russian groups pushing forward while avoiding to engage Ukrainian forces, which, in effect, results in them being surrounded. Ukrainian forces destroy Russian supply vehicles daily.

 

I would say we needed to provide them with NATO.

As for Putin today, do you really think he can sell the oligarchs and the people on the idea that the economic and political damage to Russia was worth some sliver of Ukraine?

The next time he rides shirtless on his white horse what will Russians be thinking?

 

At this point the Russian people would probably be happy to get back what's left of that invasion force. Keeping another slice of Ukraine would be the sugar to help the medicine go down. If he waits long enough he may have trouble getting his armies back home.

How many divisions do the Russian oligarchs command? The rich are never a credible threat to a dictatorship.

 

The American militia came close to annihilating the British occupation force twice before GW brought the Continental Army into the fight.

 

Keeping a force of 190,000 troops supplied is the real trick. Especially so when they are occupying territory full of hostile people. Supply lines are inherently vulnerable.

They would have been cut early on if the Ukrainians had effective weapons systems that could take out vehicles from a range of about 20 miles. The javelins are only effective for a couple of kilometers -- 4k is the max that I have seen reported.

 

You are really arguing for an insurgency, not the Ukrainian Army pushing out the Russians. Insurgencies can win, but that is usually a long term option and as long as Putin is alive I don't see him accepting a defeat.

 

Russia is just across the border. I get the whole "experts study logistics" argument, but the Russians don't have far to go to get supplies, they just need to get their supplies organized.

 

No just commenting on the variants of success. let them do what they're good at with the resources they currently have. To go toe to toe with the Russians they'd a lot need air cover and anti-battery weapons which they don't have...yet.....
Let them do what they are doing and when the opportunity arises then re-consider

 

yes they do.
Their reserves are in the Urals and on the other side of Russia. They have to be activated, tested fixed and transported which will take months....always assuming it hasn't been sold or even existed in the first place. FYI whole regiments have been know to exist only on paper with wages being diverted and equipment being sold...in Putin's exotic language the "existential threat" to Russia is corruption

 

Russia is enormous, and seeing how they are “organizing” logistics in Ukraine, I don’t think they’re very good at moving beans and bullets around. Initiative in lower ranks is not rewarded in the Russian military like it is in the west. Everything is handled from the top down, making the Russian military a very unwieldy beast.

 

That has pretty much been the case throughout the last century. Stalin didn't push the Nazi's out of the USSR because of superior logistics or tactics, nor did the Russians take Grozny with superior urban combat skills; they took tremendous casualties and just kept throwing people at the problem until they achieved their objective.

 

I read an unconfirmed report that some encirclements of Russians is forming, or has already formed. Once they are encircled, the opponent tightens the loop and then destroy them with indirect fire, or with airpower. Russians should have known better given the fact that they have lost tens of thousands of troops to that tactic in past wars.

 

I doubt very much the Russians have the stomach for that kind of fight now. I think there will be an uprising before the people accept a full mobilization to throw into the meatgrinder. Beyond a few elite units and mercenaries, the modern Russian army has proven to have a very low state of readiness and overall ability, in terms of training, leadership initiative, and logistics. A large but low quality military.

 

There is probably a point in which that could happen, so Putin needs to wrap up a win in a few months.

 

im wondering if he is going to go full retard and use chemical weapons. Or nuclear, though I doubt he goes that far. But you never know.

 

The New York Times had a story today about the White House establishing a team to develop possible responses to a nuclear or chemical attack.

Hopefully Harris isn't in charge of it.