Who Is To Blame For The Charlottesville Riot?

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Who's to blame for the Charlottesville riot?

  1. Antifa

  2. White Nationaists (Supremacists)

  3. Governor

  4. Other ( please explain )

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  1. tom444

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  2. Injeun

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    Virtuous? So virtuous that they have to hide behind masks? LOL! I repeat, this topic asks who is responsible for the violence in Charlottesville. You refuse to address that. Instead you want to justify the violence because you know that Antifa and BLM are guilty. Furthermore, Antifa and BLM were not there to oppose bigotry. That's a joke. They were there to do harm and to impose their will because they are the greater evil and threat to our country and liberty. Just last week they attacked and assaulted a conservative free speech and prayer meeting. And early last year the FBI deemed them a national threat, responsible for most of the riots and large acts of violence against Law Enforcement and political rallies in the nation. Even big shot Democrat leaders are beginning to condemn them because they are the most bigoted and violent group in the nation. And the Democrat politicians don't want to be tied to them anymore. Didn't you get the memo?
     
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  3. Renee

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    Of course , it's not possible to you that people hate injustice and bigotry. They have to have an ulterior motive. Why not talk about the people you are defending .....you know the ones chanting ..
    jews won't replace us" you act as though these white supremacists are fine people. They are violent and they only came there to spew bigotry. But that's fine with you. We just have different values ..you see people who hate bigotry as the bigots, not the ones who want Jews and blacks removed from the country.
     
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    Other - that being the mayor of Charlottesville (and possibly the governor of VA) for not controlling the situation which they had been warned about and issuing a stand down order to the local police force. Liberal progressive politicians tasked with maintaining the peace and protecting the citizenry but who instead stood by and watched people being assaulted and killed are to blame.
     
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    So fight rhetoric with more rhetoric? Hows that working for ya? Is the idea that the side that shouts loudest wins? I understand it feels good and all. Is the goal to feel good or reduce/eliminate racism? If you want people to stop being racist you are going to have to do more than yell. Yelling is easy. Showing someone the error of their ways takes real effort.
     
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    Defending evil people? Who are you referring to with your comment? To say that I and ALL OTHERS who defend people’s natural born right to say whatsoever it is they please, if defending evil, is in fact saying the those of us who do so are evil as well. This is the Self-Righteous cow-patties that I was referring to some time ago, about Leftist people and your antagonistic manners that are your operational motivations and objectives. I see more clearly than I have seen in the past that you Leftist/Progressive people are out to create a Critical Mass Scenario in these United States of [North] America in hopes of establishing some Communist/Marxist Leftist regime through pre-existing governance policies that have been laid and set in place for occasions such as these. No wonder you all are livid over the Presidency of one Donald J. Trump; he and Vice President Pence represent a “spirit” that you that was dead because of the mind numbing informational mediums in this country, but SURPRISE SURPRISE. The sleepers have awakened and casted enough votes for Mr. Trump to become president that the Electoral College couldn’t ignore. This is a word of advisement, keep your Leftist clap-trap to college campuses because the people in and of this country have grown tired of the foolishness. Our lives are in peril, and we are not about to allow the foreign entity that has driven the political machinery of this nation, to take us down with it. So keep on with your out of place comments such as “I did not vote for Trump” and “You keep defending white Nationalists and all the hundreds of hate groups” as well as equating defense of freedom with evil. It appears to me that you actually HATE freedom unless it is what you deem as Free-Dumb. The nonsensical clamor that you have offered shows YOUR learning, missy. As I stated last week, if a Black Man offers any position that does not jibe with Leftwing ideology, he is a pariah and you have proven this in your own words, leaving no doubt as to my contention about you Leftwing people, ad your actual hatred for Black people. Why so many others have not turned away from you is on them, I just know that with the passing of every defeat, you Lefties demonstrate your innate HATE!
     
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    Injeun, I am Black so pay no attention to Renee and her paranoia. To allow fear of anybody or anything to rule your life, you become INSANE. I am sure that you are well aware of this. Fear of what drives the Left, which is why their brothers in the Ku Klux Klan, the Neo-Nazis, and etc. use FEAR as their sole motivators. I am knowledgeable enough to know of Fear and how it is driven. There is rational fear and there if irrational fear. Rational fear deals with the potential harm that can be caused by something or someone, such as criminals roving the streets because the people of the area refuse to do something about said criminals. Irrational fear deals with exaggerated threats of people or something that poses neither immediate nor long term threat to you, your family or anyone. The days of people hiding and cowering from Klansmen and the like, ended for me when I was around nine years old when I witnessed first-hand that a Man is supposed to stand up for himself.
     
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    We already have a Constitution and legal system. We don't want or need Antifa's. And if they try to force it on us, they will be subdued and imprisoned.
    You are contending with your own imagination. We already have a Constitution and liberty which is protected by law enforcement, a judicial system and a military. The only lawlessness here, which is currently running wild and needs to be reeled in, is Antifa and BLM. Sorry, but that is just reality.
     
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    So that's your answer to racism...be quiet. Mean time the shouting worked, your white supremacists cancelled their rallies. You don't show someone the error of his/her ways by being quiet..being silent is being complicit. People were silent in nazi Germany and perhaps we should learn from their indifference. Hate groups are springing up in record numbers,I can't dismiss them as being unimportant...I guess we just priorities
     
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    And people got injured and killed. Good one. These posers have held rallies every year but all of a sudden they are just as important as redecorating parks is. A wonder.
     
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    You're right and being violent is counterproductive, but you always learn more about a person by the side of the argument chooses to defend. You keep fighting for the rights of the white supremacists to threaten with guns and Hitler salute. We just had different values
     
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    Fighting for American values like free speech is now considered to be racism I take it.
     
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    Missy? You're so adorable when you get irrational and too blind to see or admit your bigotry...i especially love when racists accuse people who fight for civil rights are called the racists...kinda funny.
     
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    You don't value free speech?
     
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    Yes I do...but all speech isn't free. Saying Jews will not replace us and the hitler salute is threatening....I guess you support that. We just have different values.
     
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    Well then, find your safe space.

    Unlike you I support non-violent free speech. Protect the speech you don't like and you protect your own. Who decides what is proper speech? Whoever is in power and that should be enough to open your eyes to the downside of the censorship you promote.

    BTW, it was 'you will not replace us'.

    White US nationalists chant 'you will not replace us'
     
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    it's not possible to you that people hate injustice and bigotry.

    The same injustice and bigotry that you claim that you hate has its origins and foundation in people such as yourself and the evidence of my statement is in your telling me that because I blame Antifa for the violence “shows” my leaning, when you have not the slightest idea of what you speak. To put it bluntly, Antifa has NO FIGHT over any Confederate statue whatsoever. Here is why I say this; Antifa in no way has been ill-affected by any statue, and as a matter of due course and history, recalling my mentioning of Patricia Hearst, the granddaughter of William Randolph Hearst and her escapades involving the Symbionese Liberation Army as background, I quite frankly do not trust pampered and spoiled children of the majority population in fighting over eliminating that which is offensive because when worse comes to worse, they will run and blame Black people for their actions, when it was them who are in control of their actions at all times. As I have stated about said statues, they are statues to recall a period in the history of this country, and I do not need Antifa to come and fight over them. To me, this is the same thing that was used by Patricia Hearst and many like her. Choose your own issue and stop using racism, bigotry, and offense as an excuse to implement your fight with you Caucasian brethren. Stand on your ground and fight for you usual such as *** rights, lesbianism, etc. WE DO NOT NEED YOU TO FIGHT FOR US.


    Why not talk about the people you are defending .....you know the ones chanting ..
    jews won't replace us" you act as though these white supremacists are fine people.


    I have said, I do not defend the Klan, and Neo-Nazis, they are more than capable of defending themselves and DO NOT NEED MY HELP. I will however defend the right of them being able to peacefully protest whatever they choose to protest. Their rhetorical speeches mean absolutely nothing to me. As far as them wanting to remove Black people, Jews, and others from this country, OPEN YOUR EYES, the KKK has been saying the same thing since December 24, 1865 and we Original people are still here in 2017! All of your alarmist posts about Hate Groups in America seem to be agenda driven, why do you have a need to instigate, are you attempting to incite something in this country? There are too many “Hate Crime” laws and legislation in this country as it is. This is NOT ISRAEL!
     
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    Bigot Bigot Bigot. This is all that you have you paper tiger? Civil Rights? Civil Rights are those things that are granted to other at the behest of governments. I do not respect Civil Rights, NOR those who champion such hog-wash. Natural Rights are what I am about. By the way, by you throwing up that you fought for Civil Rights, shows how disingenuous you really are and you have the nerve to call out the Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis for their hatred and bigotry. Remember, I pointed out before this that hatred what Liberals and Progressives have for Black people. It is about time that you admit to what you truly are, A RACIST!
     
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    I never said any of that did i? If your only concern is driving them back under whatever rock they crawled out from ... i salute your successes. You are treating the symptom. I have higher aspirations.

    You won't change the mob. You can change the individual. It can be done, it takes time. It takes effort. You start by understanding why most of them are racist and join these groups. They do it out of ignorance and fear. Once you understand the nature of their fear you can help them over come the ignorance of the fear. Education is the key. You cannot educate unless you first listen and understand.

    I am not for silence. Far far from it. I encourage others to speak their mind whether i agree or disagree. Speaking out is not enough if what you want is change.
     
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    No it was "Jews will not replace us. There is no one who denies they That and the fact that you are a denier when everyone heard Jews will not replace us while walking past a synagogue . Once you deny what you hear, I know what you are . Shame on you
     
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    Ok...I was right, you hate and dont respect civil rights. No surprise! I love your adorable euphemism, "natural rights" ...is that the new survival of the fittest? Yep, MLK and all those people protesting segregation are the racists and the kkk are the supporters of desegregation.....you're too funny
     
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    Oh yes,trivialize the almost one thousand hate groups ...who have gotten permission from trump to act out. The up side is people are being more active in combatting hate
     

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