Who Needs a Gun. Just Call the Police

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  1. rjjj

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    I dont know... sounds like the makers of Pokemon just saved those poor robbers some socially injust physical restraint and abuse.

    Just sayin'
     
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    Don’t know much about mental health?
     
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    In America it does

    Don’t have quite the same problem here - wonder why that is?
     
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    Because everyone is in a COVID concentration camp?
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because we don't hide such actions under the rug like they do down under where crime stats are fictional and the government is way more corrupt than what we have here.. .
     
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    Except tennis players who they kick out because he dared to think in a manner about getting the jab, a manner that the government didn't want any one of their citizens to consider trying.

    They got em well programmed down there and don't need anyone not toeing the line around to cause a little dissent or independent thinking.

    The Aussie way is comply and die and don't think or ass why.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Oh! Dear! I suppose whatever excuse works for you - but bottom line is that the auk must also have “fictional crime stats” along with Canada, Europe, NZ, Asia (with exceptions)

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    A perfect example of garbage data equals garbage data out.

    Ever heard of POWERTRAC?

    I can only assume you haven't for if you did you would understand why what you are posting is false news.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really.

    Here's an example of a 40 year old guy with mental health problems.

    Can you justify why he should be allowed to live another day to repeat his crimes as he did before?

    Or maybe for societies sake should he just be dead.


    Department of Justice
    Office of Public Affairs
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Thursday, January 20, 2022
    Registered Sex Offender Sentenced to Prison for Possessing Images of Child Sexual Abuse

    A Virginia man was sentenced today to 15 years in prison followed by a lifetime of supervised release for possessing images of the sexual abuse of children.

    Ian Andrew Zearley, 40, of Louisa County, pleaded guilty to possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children in July 2021. According to court documents, Zearley committed the offense while on supervised release for a previous conviction for possession of child exploitation materials. Following his prior conviction, law enforcement was monitoring Zearley’s computer usage pursuant to the terms of his supervised release. During the monitoring, law enforcement discovered that Zearley searched terms consistent with child sexual abuse, including “real hardcore child porn” and “boys severely whipped and bleeding.” Zearley also authored two stories that described, in graphic detail, the rape and abuse of young boys.

    When law enforcement thereafter searched Zearley’s house, they found, in his basement, business cards stating Zearley was the president of the “Pedophile Associates of America,” electric shock equipment, pepper spray, a ski mask and pellet gun. Officers also found a list of children’s names, their ages and how Zearley knew each child. Children’s items, such as diapers, bottles and toys were also found, and Zearley’s computer contained eight computer-generated images depicting child sexual abuse.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/regi...d-prison-possessing-images-child-sexual-abuse

    Now please do your best to justify why this scumbag should be allowed to take another breath.
     
  10. Seth Bullock

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    Have you ever shot one?
     
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    nope, never owned one, never even touched one, I support others rights to own one though

    I did own a bb gun when a child though
     
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    Did you also own green Army men or plastic models? Those were two of our favorite backyard targets.
     
  13. Seth Bullock

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    I think it makes sense to own one whether you live out in the sticks or not. Learning how to be safe with it and how to operate it is best with some competent trainer to guide you, much in the same way that one learns how to safely and competently operate a car.

    I think of a firearm as a tool. I don't attach any special mysticism to it, nor does owning a firearm "make you a man." But having one available in your home is a lot like having a fire extinguisher in your home. You hope you never need it. But if ever you need it, you're going to really need it.

    Every gun accident I've ever heard of is unnecessary. Guns can be securely kept, handled, and used completely safely with some training and practice and a proper mindset. In my job, I have taught literally thousands of people these things. I have trained law enforcement officers mostly, but the training is available for civilians too at reasonable cost.

    I respect your right to live how you choose and to make your own decisions, but I respectfully disagree with your choice. Because with some training and practice (No, you don't have to become a Wyatt Earp or Marshal Dillon) the firearm in your home doesn't make you less safe. It makes you safer ... just in case.

    I didn't grow up with guns in the house. But when I was a grown man, (by that time an Army vet and law enforcement officer) I talked my dad into buying a gun for protection. He did. He fired 50 rounds through it, cleaned it, and stowed it in his bedroom ... just in case. He never needed it. It stayed there unused for decades until, when he became too elderly, he gave it to me. He's passed away now, but I still have the gun. I plan to pass it on to my son some day. Anyways, he never needed it, but it was there in his home if he needed it. My father-in-law bought a handgun in the late 60s. It stayed with him in his rural home for "just in case" until he was finally too old and infirm, and he gave it to me. I have passed that gun on to my son, his grampa's gun.

    And though neither of them ever needed those guns to defend themselves in their homes, they were able to access a firearm if they needed it. And so, the gun served its purpose, providing that option if ever needed. That is what I think you should have. Something simple, safe, and reliable. Something easy to store and simple to load, unload, handle safely, and operate. I know what I would recommend for someone like you, someone who isn't really a "gun person", but something that is far better than nothing. Remember, a criminal intending to do harm to you doesn't want to get shot. He doesn't want to get shot with a rifle, shotgun, or handgun. He doesn't want to get shot with a large bullet or a small one. He doesn't want to get shot with a semi-automatic pistol or 5-shot revolver. He just doesn't want to get shot with anything. A person like you doesn't need a military or police style gun, and you don't need a "Dirty Harry" .44 magnum.

    It occurs to me that those of us who do own guns - those of us prepared to protect ourselves and our families - are indirectly protecting people like you who choose not to own a gun. I note the latest crime wave of gangs entering stores and cleaning them out, or breaking into train cars and cleaning them out, or the epidemic of breaking into parked cars to steal something out of them or to steal the whole car. And yet, with all those criminals out there roaming the streets pretty much unconcerned about the police or prosecutors, still, invading an occupied home is fairly rare by comparison. It happens sometimes, but it is comparatively rare.

    There is a good reason for that. And the reason is that too many people are armed with firearms in their homes, and they'll use them. The average criminal on the street doesn't know if you are armed in your home, FreshAir. From the criminal's perspective, you might be armed with a gun. The criminal knows that a lot of people are. He just doesn't know which ones are and which ones aren't. And that is a game-changer. I shudder to think what it would be like if everything else was the same, but no one owned guns in their homes in America. Those gangs that hit stores and trains? They would be hitting occupied homes. There is a lot of good stuff in homes. But as things are, the risk of death by trying that makes it extremely risky to try that. Some dirtbag in a gang may get away with that once or twice, but sooner or later, they're going to try it in the wrong place and they're going to die.

    Anyways, that's my point of view, for better or worse.

    Seth :oldman:
     
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    False, I know enough about mental health to understand, a mentally ill violent criminal, once killed is no longer a threat to society.

    And that alone is a strong positive for allowing the law abiding to possess firearms.

    Less criminals = lower crime and a safer society to live in.

    This fact is supported by the numbers, areas that have de-funded the police and where prosecutors have refused to prosecute violent criminals have seen a double digit increase in the murder rate in those areas.

    Again less criminals, killed criminals = a lower crime rate, it is well known and undeniable fact that once a mentally ill criminal is killed that persons recidivism rate drops to 0%.

    I understand it is hard for pro-crime anti-gunners to understand that, but it is a undeniable fact.
     
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