WHO says 80% or more will suffer mild symptoms from Corona

The University Of Common Sense. You?

 

Yes sir. The classic 1911 caliber.

Although the .38 Super is also a classic 1911 caliber.

Big fan of both

 

Ah, so every contagious disease expert is wrong, but you are right?

Ok - see how much credibility that buys you on the PF. Nobody in real life is buying it, or you'd be in charge.

 

You should get your money back

 

Your a testy one.

Not all "experts" agree on anything, much less this.

Go ahead look up any subject, even things like history and see how much disagreement there is among the "experts" in the field.

 

It was free.

You should have gone, sorry you missed it.

But new classes start daily! Jump on in!

 

Touche

 

It's getting annoying. A friend works in an optometrist office. People are wandering the floor, randomly touching sample frames, so now they have to go to the babysitting, "wait in your car until it's your turn," model, otherwise their entire day is wiping down frames.

People claiming they know better than the WHO and MOST of the experts are undermining a very valid attempt at flattening the curve on this thing, so we don't overwhelm the medical resources. It's not just those who are suffering from this, but it's all the other emergencies that come up throughout the course of an ER day. Those emergency heart attacks, strokes, accidents, etc., all need support too.

We also don't yet know the full potential impact. It's now becoming more clear that Millennial and Gen X are getting sick at a much higher than anticipated rate. It's way too soon to say the handling has been ****ed up.

 

Fair enough.

I think we are all unnerved a bit.

My work world just changed 1000% in the last 10 mins, on a conf call now...

Boom! Time to step up a bit more and do my part.

I'm gonna try to drop the political divide I feel and see if I can't be a better person till this crap is over.

Then I'm going back to my conservative asshat self.

 

I had to sell my Glock 22 and Cold AR a few years ago for credit card bills. Been looking at replacing them

 

I want you to contemplate something, and it's something I've been contemplating the last 48 hours: It may very well be impossible to "flatten the curve". This scientific theory is as novel as the novel coronavirus itself. It has no testing in real world applications, and as we can see: It's not working.

Scientists are more stubborn than Trump in giving up failed ideas, so I wanna help out while I can. It's not playing out the way they think.

 

Not the doctor. The doctor doesn't comprehend microeconomic factors. He was never trained to comprehend those factors. And that lies the problem with this social catastrophe(worse than the virus) has unfolded. You have people with no political or financial experience, dictating actions in both worlds with tremendous unheard of financial consequences.

These social theorists thought that a computer could simulate real time data for "optimum" solutions. Well, it didn't. And we have to live with that. Flatten the curve failed and actually worsened the crisis. People are still dying, but the financial system has been crushed.

 

Actually, flattening the curve does work, as shown by the experience in China, South Korea etc.

In places, where it appears to some here not to be working (it is actually working), what you actually have is the virus go through its different stages of (a) becoming symptomatic and getting people ill (itself a process that may take up to two weeks from when you catch the virus), (b) reaching a conclusion (either recovery or death) after one become symptomatic (a process that might take up to 30 days or more). All of this means that even the best social distancing measures will not necessarily show their results today, but in several weeks.

In the meantime, the real issue that people everywhere are faced with are as follows:

1- the economic costs of imposing social distances now, compared to the economic costs of not doing so? The figures will show the economic costs in the latter scenario even more staggering (by a huge margin) compared to the inevitable costs of imposing social distancing now.
2- the non-economic costs of imposing social distancing now, in terms of loss of liberty and limitations on people's ability to live their lives as they please, compared to the non-economic costs of not doing so? The answer is the same as the economic costs: delaying paying the price upfront will mean paying a much bigger price down the road. If social distancing is not imposed before the virus has spread widely, you will have a situation eventually where both the loss of liberty will be much greater once the virus has spread widely and a situation where the number of patients and the ill will overload the medical system and cause the number of deaths to skyrocket even beyond what the virus could otherwise do.

 

At what cost? And why not for the flu? And why not for H1N1. And why not lift the ban on DDT—won’t help with COVID-19, but will save millions of children from malaria.

Why this virus? What’s so special?

 

It's not a secret as to how this is different. I'd suggest watching or reading something about it other than what you have been, because the answers to your questions are very readily available to anyone who is interested. I'd also suggest that not knowing the very basics about this virus makes you supremely unqualified to have an opinion on it.

 

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As to the present DEBATE regarding, the alleged serious nature, or lack there of, of this Virus,
.................. I see "Starjet's" concerns as closer to the TRUTH of the present evolving situation.
.................. The Virus is simply being USED a Catalyst to further planned ECONOMIC agenda.

Unless these Banksters are STOPPED, far more people will die from their Machinations
.............................................................................................................. than will die from Covid 19.

That said - I do believe that Covid 19, is in itself, a serious threat, being that I am a member
..................................................................................................................................... of The TARGETED
.............................................................................................................................................. Demographic
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Turns out Covid is just as dangerous to younger people.

They get seriously sick at a rate of 20%...like everyone else. Fewer die but that's cold comfort

 

I would if you can, right now it’s tough as they are panic buying guns as well. But once this calms down there will be a flood of firearms for sale, some good deals will be out there