Who screwed up California ? Can it ever be fixed ?

Conservatives love to cherry pick statistics about California to make the case that a state run by anyone but conservatives is by definition a failed state. There is no room in the world of conservative ideology for any state or government to succeed outside of conservative dogma. Facts are immaterial to this conclusion. California is the largest target for these envious ideologues. Despite the claims of conservatives, California has always been the most progressive and open state in the union. That is why so many came here from the other rigidly controlled areas of the nation. People came here to free themselves of local control over lifestyles that demand conformity. We have also been blessed with an incredible geographical advantage over all the other states, our land, sea and waters are extraordinary, perhaps only rivaled by Italy in terms of sheer beauty and variety. Our universities are consistently the best in the world. Our industries are some of the most successful in the world. We are diverse, we are caring, we are mindful stewards of our land, environment and way of life. For this simple truth, conservatives hate us.

I have a wonderful solution for all conservatives that think California is a hell hole. Don't come here. If you live here, move. We really have no desire to have more people here at all.

 

Actually, governor Brown spent the first two years of his current term making cuts from welfare programs, it wasn't until the budget was ballanced that such spending increases were made, but I should also point out that you are not referring me to any source material. I gave you an example of a tax increase that the California citizens voted on (prop 30) and I even provided you a source with a full description of the proposition (note, it was governor Brown's campaign promise to not raise taxes without voter approval). You have not provided any source or any specific reference to a tax increase that was not voted on by the California citizens. As far as I can tell such stories of these state level tax increases are a creation of your own mind

 

And you have provided nothing but the bleating of a blind sheep relating what his sheppard has told him. If you are so blind as to refuse to see what is being done to you, you truly deserve it.

 

No, actually I've provided you with a source describing the state of California's latest tax increase, showing that it was voter approved and that it did not effect the income tax rate of those making less than $250,000 a year (here it is again https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_30,_Sales_and_Income_Tax_Increase_(2012) ). All you would need to do to end this conversation is provide one source showing a tax increase at the state level that was not approved by the voters of California since Brown took office. It shouldn't be hard if what you say is true, all you need to do is point me to a news report on a tax increase signed by the governor that was not put on the ballot as a state proposition

Again it shouldn't be hard.. assuming what you say is true, all you need to do is copy and paste the article URL into your post

 

LOL

Mexifornia?

LOL

 

No, actually you have provided nothing but lies that you either choose to believe or are told to believe. You are so thought blocked that you will accept nothing that does not conform to what you have been told. If provided, you will swivel your original position so that nothing in the world will ever meet your demands. In other words, you insist on believing what your betters have told you and refuse to entertain any alternate facts or thoughts. Definition of a democrat.

 

No that's not a lie, governor Brown's campaign promise was no new taxes without voter approval (see campaign promise here-> http://www.jerrybrown.org/brown_campaign_responds_to_whitman_s_latest_whopper)

but again, if you can provide any tax increase (one that has actually been implemented) that was not approved by the California voters , then feel free to share the link. If Jerry Brown did in fact break his campaign promise then you should have no problem finding an article on him breaking his campaign promise and raising taxes without notifying the voters. So far I have been given no reason to believe that such tax increases are not a creation of your own imagination

 

Just to finish this off before ignoring you in the future, have the California health care taxes gone up since 2012 or has there been a vote to increase them? No vote, but an increase. Look at your taxes.

This, of course, you will dismiss as you do all facts that don't match your premise. Typical of one like you.

Goodbye.

 

There's a reason why you're unable to find a source to back your claims...

Has California's healthcare taxes gone up? no, there is no such thing as a healthcare tax. There is an income tax, there is a sales tax, there is a tabaco tax(all of which are used to fund medical), but there is no healthcare tax (although insurers pay their own tax, however their taxes have been reduced not increased in recent years) . Healthcare premiums have gone up in recent years, if that's what you are referring to.. but healthcare premiums are not a tax, nor are they determined by the governor's office. They are in fact determined by private healthcare companies.

There's also the penalty under the ACA for not buying health insurance, but that's a federal level penalty, it is also not determined by the governor's office. You pay the penalty when you file your federal tax return https://www.healthcare.gov/fees/fee-for-not-being-covered/

..I don't believe you know what you are talking about, which would probably explain why you want to cut and run from the discussion and not provide a single source to show you're not making things up on the spot