Who won the first debate?

I was jokingly anticipating what they'd say, but you are right. Hannity tried his best to convince fellow commentators trump won but mostly it wasn't commentary full of confidence. He sort of admitted that it was his job to support the conservative candidate with a smirk. All you seem to get with fox is nasty, aggressive shameless biase, which is intriguing for many non Americans. Murdoch is a lot more subtle in Oz due to the fact that Aussies would respond quite negatively to obvious media biase.

As an outsider but someone interested in American politics due to a long stint in the states many years ago it's quite funny reading people's perspectives.

Trump showed an unsteady hand due to constantly wanting to put out the small fires lit around him. I suppose he has no option due to credibility issues but in the debate instance should have held firm on the big issues. I'm not a fan of Clinton because I think she is desperate but her calmness in this debate was calming in itself. A guy who spruiks about his success due to the subprime market collapse has to be concern for the middle class American. He rejoices over his personal success in clear light of fellow Americans pain and feels proud he hasn't paid tax despite having the environment and structure build collectively by citizens past and present and from many socio economic circumstances for him.
You got to be a half wit to even consider him. Sure people may not be overly happy with Clinton but constituents voted each candidate in through primaries. So why would Americans want to cut off their noses to spite their face? Good luck man, I think America will need it if this half wit wins. If he doesn't it is still pretty concerning that so many people supported him.
Expect another economic downturn so that he can cash in on it.

 

Despite which candidate a person likes Trump won this debate hands down.

It was REALLY DIFFICULT watching Hillary as she has this thing she does when she does not like what she is hearing as it is this small smile with her mouth barely open and it just looks so disingenuous.

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That's going to happen as soon as the feds raise interest rates as soon as Obama leaves the White House.

Even Trump mentioned it during the debate, that the Feds have become politicized under the Obama administration and created a bubble that's going to burst when the Feds stop propping up Obama's phony economy by propping up Wall Street, refusing to raise interest rates and printing trillions of dollars with nothing to back it up with.

Back in 2011 I started asking myself how long can the Feds keep propping up Obama's economy ???
Why were the Feds propping up Obama's economy ? Because he's America's first black President and didn't want to see him fail ?
Or has Obama politicized the Feds like he has with every executive branch of government including the DOJ and IRS ?

The recession ended in June of 2009 and 7 years and 9 months later still no full recovery of the economy and Obama will be the first President in history not to see a GDP over 3 %

Last August the Obama White House was begging the Feds not to raise interest rates until after Obama has left the White House.

That bubble is about to burst and who will be blamed ? George Bush ?

 

It will be interesting to see what happens that is for certain!!

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It mostly seems like supporters of each candidate say their candidate won, which means neither won decisively. Clinton performed well. Trump less so. He's not going to convince indys to vote for him by saying he's smart for not contributing income taxes, as a billionaire. His one good hit was the 30 years line. Otherwise it would have been a total loss for him.

 

I can't say who won until BBC/ABC/CBS/MSNBC/NYT/LAT/Washington Post/AP/CNN/Sky tell me what to think. There are fringe groups on both sides, but the left resoundingly controls the mainstream.

 

Please post a link to the Cavuto interview.

 

Hard to judge since all we have is his claim he paid no taxes because he is soooooo smart. Perhaps, which is more likely , he paid no taxes because he actually made no money

 

His company pays tens (if not hundreds) of millions in taxes. Given your keen interest in Trump's finances, you've studied his financial disclosure, right?

PS Personal income tax reflects the money he pays himself as salary or takes out of his business as profit for his personal needs. These amounts may indeed be very low if he keeps all profits in his business.
Duh

 

If wasn't really that Hillary won, but more like the obvious fact that Trump deliberately chose not to win. After all the facts about her numerous crimes have surfaced in the last 60 days he could have easily finished her, but he didn't. Seriously, I wonder why not.

 

Politifact rates Clinton's assertions 82% TRUE/MOSTLY TRUE; 56% of Trump's FALSE/MOSTLY FALSE

Or PANTS ON FIRE outright (none of Clinton's were).

Another 9% of Clinton's statements were "half true" compared to 19% by her opponent - leaving just 25% of Trump's statements as true or mostly true.

This is based on fact-checking done on 11 major points made by Secretary Clinton, and 16 by Trump.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/26/trump-clinton-first-debate-fact-checks/

 

If the truth no longer matters to you, Trump won. Hands down.

 

I never said that he was a popular elitist. Popularity does not necessarily come with that territory so what is your point?

 

It was a draw except that Trump missed an opportunity when Hillary started her BS about fat shaming and pigs. All he needed to do was cite the date and to whom she was speaking when she called women "bimbos". And there's the time she accused a little raped girl of acting provocative around men and asking to be raped.

 

The Wall Street elite, like the political elite supports the Clintons and opposes Trump.
Trump is their enemy - the Clintons are their friends.

 

Trump just seemed like a school yard bully, I am pretty sure he doesn't really want to win, I think he wants to be a Rush type person after he loses as he knows the Presidency doesn't pay well

 

Majority of Americans disagree. In fact, Hillary lost support after the debate and Trump did not.

 

In the end, that's all that matters, how the electorate views the two candidates. I probably would have graded Hillary the winner as well, because she had Trump on the defensive most of the evening. But the problem with Hillary's offense is that it is of itself so offensive, phony, and hypocritical. So even by winning on points, she loses by her own pompous arrogance.

 

The first half of the debate was owned by Trump, even CNN didn't debate that. The second half is where there's division. Some say Hillary won the second half, some say Trump. I personally think it was a stalemate. But then again, I don't like listening to what comes out of those two corrupt serial liar mouths.

 

Trump Blames Insane Debate Performance on a Bad Microphone
Hillary Clinton undeniably savaged Donald Trump in last night’s debate, flattening him like a baby carrot under the wheels of a cement mixer.

Seeing the two of them vie for space on a single stage really threw the full extent of Trump’s lunacy into sharp relief; toward the end he seemed to disintegrate entirely, spouting off bizarre non sequiturs about oil and Rosie O’Donnell like a tiny-handed robot that got dropped in a bath. There was a lot to take note of — and more will surely be unearthed and beaten into dust in the coming days and weeks — but here are just a handful of the night’s takeaways.....

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/trump-blames-insane-debate-performance-on-a-bad-microphone-9156591


It was so obvious who the loser was and if you need a poll to tell you that, you are intellectually challenged.

 

In my opinion neither candidate performed that well. Trump was unfocused, not on point, and rambled too much. Hillary Clinton's lies went unchallenged, she slandered him, and some of her comments were too over the top. I about quit when she blamed him for the birther conspiracy that she started in 2008 and berated him for it. Furthermore the third debater, Lester, tipped the scales in Trumps favor by being so overwhelmingly pro-clinton that it was ridiculous. Lester tagging up with Hillary was pretty much a smaller example of everything the public distrusts and hates about the mass media. Had it been a fair debate Hillary and Trump would have tied, although barely with both receiving poor but passing grades, but the third debater made all the difference in the end. Donald Trump won.

 

From your messages that does seem the level of relevancy of issues to you, meaning none. Wow, has Hillary put on a lot of weight! Can't even control her eating habits.

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Trump won the debate and everyone knows it.

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The super rich and corporations not only control, but own the MSM.

 

I think its great that we have now established that Hillary won the debate.

And boy....didn't she look healthy!!!

 

Fresh off Mr. Sniffy's website .....

 

Trump had a few good moments.

I expect if he were elected president...he'd have a few good moments in that job also.

Hillary was presidential throughout...was in command of the facts...looked a lot more healthy than Donald...

...and won that debate big time.

If it had been a prize fight...the ref would have stopped it in early on.