WHY are Americans supposed to Hate Russia

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Who decided not to provide our "allies", Ukraine and Georgia, weapons systems that could have deterred an attack?

    Donald Trump? ;-)
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The duty of the US government is to follow the Constitution. Easily understood in the Preamble.

    Ahhh, let's go back to the Cold War to show how bad the US is and support the actions of other nations (i.e. Russia) in 2016 and beyond.

    Interesting to see you agree with the Democrats. I disagree, but it's your choice to support them that our ideals as "EVIL".
     
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    There’s no authoritative list of countries in which Washington intervened in elections, since the form of involvement varied widely. However, according to Levin and Michael Brenner of the University of Pittsburgh, countries suffering from America’s malign attention included:
    Afghanistan,
    Albania,
    Algeria,
    Argentina,
    Bolivia,
    Bosnia,
    Brazil,
    Chile,
    Colombia,
    Congo,
    Cyprus,
    Czechoslovakia,
    Dominican Republic,
    Ecuador,
    Finland,
    France,
    Germany,
    Greece,
    Guyana,
    Haiti,
    Honduras,
    Indonesia,
    Iraq,
    Israel,
    Italy,
    Japan,
    Kenya,
    Kyrgyzstan,
    Laos,
    Lebanon,
    Macedonia,
    Malta,
    Nicaragua,
    Pakistan,
    Palestinian Authority,
    Panama,
    Paraguay,
    Peru,
    Philippines,
    Portugal,
    Romania,
    Serbia,
    South Korea,
    Sri Lanka,
    Tajikistan,
    Turkey,
    Russia,
    Ukraine,
    Venezuela,
    Vietnam,
    Yemen,
    and Yugoslavia.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougba...e-u-s-but-u-s-against-the-world/#3ca214c56644

    So every Democrat has forgotten Obama having Merkel wiretapped and her emails hacked?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Why didn't the DOJ wait until at least some of those Russians were in countries with extradition treaties with the US before announcing their indictment?
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where do you get going back to the Cold War? So you claim Obama and Merkel were during the Cold War? I mean, really?!

    BTW, the Cold War ended in 1991.

    In 1996, the USA hugely covertly funded and interfered in Russia's election - NOT during the Cold War. The Cold War was OVER half a decade.
     
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  6. Max Rockatansky

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    Your defense of Russia and their actions is notable.

    So, in your opinion, what happened 25 years ago justifies what happened 2 years ago. Can we use the same excuse to commit cyber-warfare against Russia 2 years from now?
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sad so many people attack the United States but have nothing bad to say about Russian, Syria, Iran, China or anyone else. Based on the posts of several RWers on this forum, the United States is the most "EVIL" country in the world.
     
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    Your lack of any intellectual integrity and 100% fake outrage is what is notable - but mostly it is your living in a juvenile fantasy world - plus truly absurdly claiming attacking our President and Commander In Chief on behalf of Putin and our enemies is "pro-American." The more you trash our leader the more YOU help Russia, China, Iran and N. Korea - but you WANT Americans to suffer believing this will harm Trump.

    Your messages are pure irrational hysterical hyper-ventilating panic attack TDS over losing an election like a 5 year old losing a game or being told "no" to a piece of candy in a store check out lane, throwing himself to the floor screaming and sobbing.
     
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    Don't forget slavery, the slaughter of the American Indians, killing of the Buffalo, Japanese internment camps, so on and so forth.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven't attacked the United States. I am posting about adult world reality. You are posting about some non-existent reality in which trashing our president and commander in chief on behalf of our enemies is your view of what is pro-American. NOTHING of your messages are anything but hatred of the United States.

    ADULT REALITY TOO HARD FOR YOU?

    Every country spies on other countries. Every major country tries to influence the government and elections of other countries.
     
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    I think you're a bit confused. Our president, and commander in chief, trashed our country on behalf of our enemy.
     
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    Don't misunderstand me. I don't have the Democratic Party occasional My Little Pony cartoon reality viewpoint.

    The USA is rich and powerful not because Americans were nice, not because we have Democracy, not because of diversity, not because of freedom. The USA is rich and powerful because as capitalistic society and as a military power the USA became the toughest KICK ASS country in the world - and anyone who reads of USA history in terms of REALITY understands this.

    I fully expect every other country on earth and their leaders to do exactly the same thing. IF it is in the USA's interest to interfere with, alter, distort or corrupt another country's election? DO IT!! I WANT OUR PEOPLE TO DO EXACTLY THAT. And they have. And I expect other countries to try to do the same to us.

    The whimpy-ass, sobbing Democratic Party? Hell, the controlled the Presidency and they FAILED - in fact Obama ordered to not even try to stop Russian interference - because he believed until the very end Russia was supporting Clinton - plus it KNOWN Ukraine was.

    We know IN FACT the DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL NOT AND CAN NOT PROTECT OUR ELECTIONS. All they can do is sob and rant and want the whole world blown up in their next of endless toddler mentality bad-loser temper tantrums.

    Foreign relationships have NOTHING to do with NICENESS. They have to do with POWER - who has it and who best knows how to use it. NOTHING else. Democracy. Theocracy. Oligarchy. Royalty. Military dictatorship. What matters is POWER.

    I do not care if ANY foreign leader likes the USA or or president. I want them to fear and respect our POWER, I want our leaders to be powerful and to know how to use that power.
     
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    That's a complete lie. Putin obtained nothing - but you declare him the winner because REALLY he is YOUR hero. You LOVE Putin and declare him your HERO for you claiming he beat Trump - when in fact Putin obtained NOTHING. You praise Putin for NOTHING because you LOVE HIM!
     
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    I didn't know you love leftist commies? LOL...you are one confused individual.

    Further LOL at the statement you highlighted. People have been predicting the death of either political parties forever, but it have yet come to past. And if you knew anything about politics, you would not put out such a dumb statement. By the way, people like Stalin loves to have one party to control the government. I'm guessing you are sharing his belief, much like how you love Putin. You are fooling nobody with your pathetic rant.
     
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    A president has legal authority to negotiate with foreign powers..Now you know why it was no big deal...
     
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    Ha ha. Trump backs Putin over his own intelligence community, bows to him on an international stage, but I love him?
     
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    The tinfoil hat signal is working in overdrive today.
     
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    No, Trump was sticking up for a man that is wealthier than he is....
     
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    You must admit that Soros has the world in his hands...
     
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    Yeah, I saw how afraid Putin was of Trump today.
     
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    NIce over-reaction. I'm sure Putin would be proud.
     
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    You too?
     
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    Trump lies all the time, and today, he acted like an UnAmerican buffoon. Anybody who have pride in their country would cringe, but no. Not you and your ilk, because instead of country, you chose party today, defending a Russian commie. A patriot you are not.
     
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    Here's another reality.

    Virtually the entire world, including nearly all of Western Europe and NATO, side with Putin in this. But, then, they all have been victims of USA interfering with their governments and elections.

    The Democratic Party and leftwing is increasingly being reduced to malcontents wearing masks, rioters and ranting obscenities in the eyes of most people.
     
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    More adult reality?
     

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