WHY are Americans supposed to Hate Russia

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First, the link provided disclosed evidence. Yes, there is classified evidence which has been reviewed by cleared Congressional committees.

    Second, yes, I saw Fox news use that "the same intel community" line. It's a distortion of the facts. The intel is the intel. What elected leaders choose to do with it is up to them. This is a basic fact the armchair community...and Russian sympathizers, wish everyone would forget.
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is lying or just incompetent? Either way, why did Trump appoint her and why hasn't he fired her yet if she's an incompetent liar?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Please disclose the evidence to the public.
     
  4. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Because Putin is a mass murdering dictator? Who spends his time killing his opponents and jailing journalists? Who invades allies? Just to name a few.
     
  5. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that is the best level of insult you are capable of, you need to go back to the Outhouse University.... take remedial crapping or something.
     
  6. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unions have been the death knell for Americans for years.
    Even before Obama named hisself The Car Czar and took
    over GM. Where GM dealerships got screwed as did GMAC
    bond holders { 20 cents on the dollar }.
    Ford hung tight and would not allow Obama to take over.
    Wisconsin's Governor Scott Walker,pledged if elected he
    would make the state whole.Unions were causing the state to
    go bankrupt.He was fought tooth and nail,even having the State
    legislators flee to another state to make sure they wren't available
    for an Important vote concerning the State budget.
    Walker proves that collective bargaining was bad for his state.
    He pledged to get his state out of the red and into the black and he did.
    Saving the citizens on their property tax bills in the process.
    Yes, regulars at Obama's while house included SEIU President
    Andy Stern and Richard Trumka { AFL-CIO } who bragged he
    was at the White House daily.
    States that went Non-union slowly became the example of
    where to locate for big business.Right-to-work states flourished.
    Obama did make sure to load up on his hiring of Government employees
    and make sure they got Bonus'.Many examples where that backfired.
    Parties and expense accounts and freebies out the wazoo.
    Like what Pelosi pulled when she was granted her own Private
    jet while Speaker { a first in speakerships }.
     
  7. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Continue avoiding the topic, It suits you well. Didn't know you went to collage to learn to s$%t on someone..once again your own voluntary waste of time.

    Are you going to vote republican again? Or use social issues as a reason not to better the democratic party?

    If you have a million + in disposable income, stick with Trump....You have no reason to dislike anything he has done, including his meddling with Russia.
     
  8. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    That is not a tat...that is an excuse you came up with.

    Waiting for the things Trump has done that made America better.

    Just naming them is no longer enough, we wanna know how as well.
     
  9. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course.... your intense bias BS doesn't impress me or count for crap, so you can keep it.

    Actually, I voted for Obama 10 years ago, and lived to deeply regret it. I voted for Kasich this time; I will vote for Trump in the next election.
    He's a pit bull, no question- but then that is what the job really needs. We've seen what happens when we put poodles in there, smiles up front and sneaky corruption behind the curtain. That's why Trump got elected, and is doing his best to keep promises. I can't remember when a president has ever done that before, and I'm old.

    The last thing a thinking man would do is vote for the democrats at this time in history. While the republicans left me about 12 years ago (I'm independent) the democrats have left all their logical supporters and went to la-la land. Democratic control would be the same as a nationwide disaster; they have no idea how to prepare for the future anymore, and don't seem to remember the past.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Pitbull?? WTF no, more like child, words are important.

    I can respect everything else you said...You support a child..That is ok.
     
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  11. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that wasn't so stupid, it would be funny.
    Just a clue for you:
    Children whine trying to get someone else to give them what they want. Grown up act and make things happen.
     
  12. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama's GI bill eh.Meaning he allowed for Transgender medical
    operations.? Under Obama our VA { Veterans Adm.} has never been in
    worse shape.Vets DIED because Obama purposedly micromanaged
    the VA so as to Deny urgent care for Vets with serious needs.
    Obama somehow had his VA run 2 sets of books.One on the up and
    up and one completely the opposite.In order to justify lack of care
    for vets.Like a crooked shell game.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I do not believe you...
     
  14. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Hmm...So you continue to admit Trump is a child.
     
  15. ButterBalls

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    Well it's a political thing! Under Mr. Obatard they were our bestist friend. Don't you remember Mr. Obatard getting national acclaim from debating Romney on how he was SOoo wrong about Russia being the greatest threat :) Even while Russia was using propaganda on the U.S. in 2016 Mr. Obatard still couldn't bring himself to admit election interference or hacking from his bestist bud Putin and the motherland :)
     
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  16. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we know obama like them..remember that video of him telling russia that after the election hed have more leeway to collude with them?
    lefty b like...i dont remember that at all.
     
  17. Vernan89188

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    Remember, remember...If that is the saying of they day, then remember Trump...and only Trump is whom you continue to support.

    For what ever reason..My guess is spite, but what ever.

    Your mind is good at remembering the negatives of the past,...focus on critical thinking now..and why Trump is able to take advantage of his followers...Look outside the box. Yes you have made well for your self...But gdanm, what has Trump done to earn your undying loyalty?
     
  18. Natty Bumpo

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    It's not a matter of "hate" although there are some who deal at that level.

    Putin's Russia invades, assassinates, persecutes, and sabotages elections in Western democracies as well as bombing innocents in Syria to prop up a brutal tyrant.

    The appropriate question is why should America grovel and appease such a heinous regime in Helsinki?
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ha ha... the whiner dodges the responsibility for whining. There's the child, chocolate syrup all over his face and had no idea who made the mess.
    It's you, buddy.
     
  20. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Nah, I'm the one taking the cute picture...you seem to be the one giving Trump syrup to poor all over his face and supporting him...
     
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    No my mind is focused on HYPOCRISY, of which the leftist put on display 24/7/365 ;)
     
  22. Vernan89188

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    Ok...Currently everyone is making money....whom the credit goes to, No one cares, but please do not pretend it is Trump...We all know the bubble is gonna pop...What you invested in? ROFL would it be Trumps predictions?

    Keep the secret if you got insider info on Russia gains
     
  23. Foolardi

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    Look up Obama's Veterans Adm/ caught using 2 sets of
    books.
     
  24. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Childish attitudes serve no purpose at all. If you had something constructive to contribute, people would listen- but the only ones enjoying the hate rhetoric are your fellow haters. The rest of us just hear the sound of jackasses braying in the corral and consider the source.
     
  25. ButterBalls

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    How about, we do it like this. You pretend, I pretend. You don't tell me how, I don't tell you, how! When the bubble pops! You prepare how you prepare, I prepare I chose to prepare!

    Good Luck, over!
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Damn nice bubble, though. All my accounts did this today. And- If the bubble pops, that will be very profitable too. I'm prepared.
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