Why are here so many topics about a "russian threat"?

Iv never denied that there are things the US does that is negative, selfish, or downright dispicable. But do not pretend like a little child that you don't notice the 20 odd posts destroyer or Jean make every week where it literally looks like the just googled "US bad" and copied and pasted the first thing they found. Do you at least have the decency to admit that? I very much doubt it.

 

maybe our economy is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. But not our women...i heared they like some africans drilling them in sweden.

 

He will come up with a list from American propaganda sites, as well as made up information from some Kiev observers.

When Germany realized that Washington's intent was to destroy the Minsk peace deal, Spiegel came out with the truth. They wrote that the German Intelligence Agents were questioning Gen. Breedlove's sanity when he said he saw 10,000 Russian tanks entering Ukraine...since no one else could see them.

What is worse though, is that this same lie was repeated by his girl friend Nuland to the Foreign Relations Committee and not one senator had the courage to question her. So much for the credibility of the American government.


Hey McCain, get your tail off the desk.

 

watch, read, listen.

i collected that info over several weeks.

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no one is talking to you, Jeannette.

 

Europe has so many problems because the chaos in the middle east. Italy is under so much pressure from this savages and i simply want a solution that ends this nightmare. If russia can help us to achieve this then i side with russia anytime.

The americans failed us. So why should i still bet on a dead horse?

Italy stands alone and i feel that its very hard because all of this.

 

Now now we all know they are all their on vacation.

 

Because there are Russians and Stalinists on the forum, plus of course a lot of easily frightened liberals. Many of those believe the USA should surrender to any potential adversary.

 

yes, thousands of Russian troops on vacation, coming to Ukraine to help their brothers, unpaid and without any compensation whatsoever.

and they broughht hundreds of trucks and artillery with them, unmarked, without any help from Russia.

 

A) The Crimea is Ukrainian territory.
B) The Putin junta readily admits that Russian troops are in the Ukraine outside of Crimea but laughably claims they are all there on vacation.

 

I want you to go down the list of titles on this forum and count how many times Russia is mentioned in a deragatory way and how many times the US is mentioned in a deragotory way...if ever.

In other words the responses are simply to disprove what those posters are saying. If the US is attacked in the posts, it's because they are instigating the lies. Those posters are being paid.

 

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The Crimea is internationally recognized Ukrainian territory, South Ossettia is internationally recognized Georgian territory so spare me your fascist propaganda which you dictate verbatim from the Russian Ministry of Mass Media and Communications.

No it is a product of Saddam, Assad and Russia.

No, no it is not.

 

How comes then that our defense minister openly says that the current events that cause so much hardships for our nation are a direct result of american decissions?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...so-powerful-could-destroy-texas-france-7.html

 

I don't know what that has to do with my post or what quote you are talking about? But if you're correct then it's because he's an idiot who wants cheap Russian gas.

 

Its a basic fact that USA attacked Iraq and let it collapse into a black hole. Its also a fact USA destabilized libya as well as syria.

Now italy has to repair that. We currently install a new trustworthy iron dictator in libya.

And we must support Assad. There is no other way.

USA failed in both. So why not bet on russia?

 

I think the next stage of insight in Europe will come when the Ukrainian Nazis will start to create real problems for Europeans. Taking into account the pace of falling into savagery in Ukraine probably Europeans in some years will start to beg Putin to annex this pseudo-state and bring an order at this territory at last.

 

the NATO sanctions, collapse in oil prices, collapse in the value of the Ruble, has significantly hurt Russia.

they are not likely to stir up trouble in Latvia, Moldova, Finland, any time soon.

Putin has been spanked.

 

It's only ok if US does it. Even if another country does the same thing, it's not OK for them to do so. Not without permission. Only US can bomb and assassinate who every they wish.

Sort of how an irresponsible parent may tell their kid "follow what I say, not as I do."

I wonder how would US react if Russia suddenly decided to do all the things that US did.

I bet the neocon trolls on this cite will jump and say that "see I told you russia was an evil agressor"

And I would be like "but the us did the same thing"

And they'd be like "russia is evil and it must be whipped out. The fact that they bombed 3 countries prove this."

And I would bring up the fact that US did the same things and worse as I did before.

But of course the response will be the same. "It doesn't matter. Russia is evil. They are the agressors."

Retarded neocons are brainwashed like that.

In fact, isn't this what we see from dumb neocons on this forum today?

One tracked brainwashed mentality built on the big lie of American Exceptionalism

Sounds like what Hitler was saying to the germans. That they are special and better than the rest.

 

Al-Qaeda is also a product of Russia? Go and educate yourself who financed Modjaheds in Afghanistan in 1980s. You have no idea what you are talking about. And bring here the proof that ISIS is a product of Russia.
As for South Osetia- it is not in Russian Federation. There is even a border contol between Russia, Abkhazia and South Osetia. These are independent from Russia republics. You know nothing about this region.
Crimea is now Russian territory. I am actually happy about that. Otherwise, this region would have the same problems as the ones that exist now in Donbass.

 

Bush was wrong to invade Iraq.

just as Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine

 

The Crimea belongs to those who live on it, and who have always lived and fought for it. I believe more than one out of ten Crimeans were killed by the Germans, and some of the worse battles were fought on Crimea ...so don't estimate the love the Russians living there have for their land.

There was no way they were going to give up their language and culture for a fascist government in Kiev, and when they were asked to do so by Kiev, and when seven were killed in a pogrom because of it, they declared their independence.

Don't underestimate the intelligence of the Russian government. There is nothing Washington wanted more then Russia sending troops into Ukraine and getting entangled in a war. The soldiers entering were on vacation, either that or it was a cover up, and they were really the Ukrainian troops who had surrendered and wanted to help free their land from the junta.

The OSCE guarding the border said that none of them had arms even though they were wearing uniforms. They would gather at a place and pick up guns, and then go somewhere else to test them out.

This doesn't mean that Russia wasn't helping, of course they were the same way the US sends in special service men. It wasn't direct help though. When they first started fighting, Strelkov was at Slaviansk and he was desperate for arms. There's a video of him pleading for help from Russia.

He didn't get the help he wanted from Russia, or so he thought and he was forced to desert the city. There had to have been help though, because suddenly the Ukrainian army surrendered and Strelkov had all the tanks and arms he needed.

This kind of help went on throughout the war, but it was not direct. None of the tanks were made in Russia although they were the same as the Russian tanks. Also the border was open in places so at night the militia was free to go in and out and get medicine and supplies. I know this because the militia refused to stop their advances when Poroshenko sued for peace, and Russia had to force them to do so by closing the border.

One of the surrenders, I believe it was the one that led to Minsk I was so embarrassing for the Ukrainian General that he not only said that Ukraine was invaded by Russian troops and that's why they lost the battle, but that Russia used nuclear arms. He had to retract it because it was a little too ridiculous.

Anyway had Russia invaded the one hundred and one times Kiev said it did, the whole country would be packed with Russian tanks.

 

He recently dropped his pants to show Medvedev his reddened rear-end...."Look Dmitry", said Vlad, "the West has really hurt my butt".

 

The people in Donbas were very upset that Russia accepted Crimea but not them, and Putin explained it in a video. He said that Crimea had a defined boundary, but the Donbas didn't. He said when they took a poll, they found that the further away they went from the Donbas the more the people didn't want to become a part of Russia...so where would they put the boundary. 

What Russia wanted right from the start was to keep Ukraine intact by having it federalized, that way each area could have their own trade agreements...but Poroshenko and the rest are idiots. If Ukraine breaks up now, Hungary will get the lands that belonged to it, Poland will get the lands that belonged to it as well as Romania...not to mention Russia of course.

 

But the thing is, Russia didn't invade Ukraine. They already had a military base in Crimea. Most of the fighting was done by mercs and Ukrainians themselves.

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And I thought that it was a product of CIA and their funding of Mujahideen

 

they had a navy base in Crimea, and they were not allowed to conduct any operations IN crimea itself without coordinations with the Ukraine government.

Russia also invaded Donetsk and Lugansk