Why David Hogg’s ‘Five Point Plan’ To End Gun Violence Betrays His Ignorance

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Steve N, May 15, 2018.

  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not? ... well ... but did you before?
     
  2. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have heard in the past that Republicans and far righties told the same about Obama and so reasoned their BS militia foundings etc., eh?
     
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,535
    Likes Received:
    11,275
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Let me see. I heard democrats say this. However, you only heard that someone said that republicans said that.
     
  4. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And so ... what now? Proposal: Put them both in one bag together, close it and beat with a baseball bat on the bag ... be sure, you will always hit the correct idiots! ;-)
     
  5. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,535
    Likes Received:
    11,275
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just a matter of credibility.
     
  6. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When it comes to credibility, my bag suggestion changes nothing ... no difference between both ... Democrats and Republicans!
     
  7. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,535
    Likes Received:
    11,275
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Both examples make a case for keeping our guns.
     
  8. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because the countdown to the next US Civil War is already underway ... I know! Only the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with it as anyone who has been involved in the matter knows!
     
  9. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Always a tell tale when someone uses " a lot " usually means they are paranoid and have no actual evidence.
     
  10. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wow, Where does the right get it's standard of mental protocol, whatever that actually means?
     
  11. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No it usually means there are a lot of people on the left who want to remove all guns.
     
  12. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You can obviously document that with your hugh list of elected liberals calling for grabbing all guns. Oh wait, I forgot, it is their hidden agenda known only to yourself and the peopke living in the copper pyramids at the NRA.
     
  13. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Going by the cross section in this forum indicates a lot of people on the left wants all guns gone. Nobody said they had to be elected officials.
     
  14. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually haven't seen any of us liberals on this forum calling for confiscating all guns either. Perhaps you are confusing keeping guns away from criminals and the mentally disturbed and advocating for serious background checks on all sales as some kind of threat.

    That said I do agree that if all guns magically disappeared from private hands the US would be a better/ safer place.
     
  15. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Then only the police and military would have them, how long before the government becomes tyrannical?
     
  16. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gee I though the gun advocates were saying the military wouldn't turn on citizens and would disobey an unlawful order. You guys need to get your talking points consistant.
     
  17. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trying to explain to you all the reasons we need to hold onto guns is like trying to describe a rainbow to a blind person, it just can't be done because you just won't understand beyond your fears.
     
  18. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thats hilarious considering it is your paranoid fears about tyranny that you use to justify your need for guns.
     
  19. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Tyrannical government was only one reason out of many I have stated for keeping guns in the hands of law abiding citizens. It is your paranoid fear of guns which you use to justify the removal of them.
     
  20. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No it is my fear of idiots with guns.
     
  21. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So the "idiots" you are so afraid of are people who don't think like you? So you attack the guns because they will not fight back and the "idiots" will.
     
  22. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Strange you need to characterize everone with guns as idiots. I certainly didn't.
     
  23. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But you did and I quote "No it is my fear of idiots with guns.". If you are so afraid then maybe you should stay at home. No, that's not good more accidents happen at home, maybe you should just stay in bed.
     
  24. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    27,769
    Likes Received:
    4,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Obviously your grasp of the English language is deficient if you think " idiot " is synonymous with " gun owner" . Or perhaps idiot accuratly reflects the gun owners you know in which case I respectfully suggest you widen your circle of acquaintances.
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2018
  25. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2017
    Messages:
    3,312
    Likes Received:
    788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You are the one who said "idiots with guns" and you are afraid of them.
     

Share This Page