Why did Hilary lose the 2016 election?

Why did your football team lose?
They scored the least points.

 

Actually, I think not. When the Constitution was written, creating the Electoral College, 97% of Americans lived in rural areas & farmed. So your post can't be true.

 

For you perhaps.

 

I didn't vote for him but he was still a better candidate than Hillary and lots of other candidates I have seen in my lifetime.

 

I am totally bewildered by what standards you use to make such an evaluation.

 

By his ability to gather crowds and whip up enthusiasm for his candidacy. For his ability to read the masses. For his stamina in doing so. For his ability to put together an Electoral College win. Compared to Romney and Dole a MUCH better candidate. Obama was a great candidate. Surely you agree MUCH better than Hillary ever was.

 

Yes, for once, I agree with you.

 

No. I actually did listen to her and the only thing she said was "I am not Donald Trump" and then threw in a few tidbits about what she would give women that we had already had since the Equal Employment Act.

Hilary lost because:
1. She was a candidate without a message. You can't win on simply "I'm not the other guy."
2. You don't change minds by name calling (deplorable), yelling (see Hilary supporters), and nastiness. Those can shut down conversation, but they don't encourage anyone to vote for you.
3. Extreme ideas. She signed onto unfettered immigration, transgender everything, unlimited abortion, even though she knew better. Most people do not go for extremist positions.
4. The media was not Hilary's friend. Saying a candidate already has it in the bag energizes the other side and made potential Dem voters think they could just stay home on election night.

So far, it seems 2020 will be a replay of 2016.

 

Uh yeah....we have an electoral college system. However, I believe NY and CA had more electoral votes than most of the Midwest and she won those right? So seems the math wasn't what ruined her.

 

It's a combination of multiple choices. Poll should allow multiple choice answers.

At the end of the day, she was just a crappy candidate. Her name carries the weight of decades of scandal, dislike, and political history. Honesty, she came closer to winning than I actually thought she would.

And, if you can lose to a man like Trump, it's time to retire. Trump didn't win the election so much as Hillary Clinton lost it(sit down mouth frothers, yes Trump still won and is the legal president).

 

Trumps Dad died twenty years ago. His Dad's total worth was probably a fifteenth of what President Trump is worth. So to say "his Daddies money bailed him out" has no bearing in truth or reality. And he is also successful as our President.

 

Which false accusations spread by Russians and reinforced by the Trump campaign. And since none of the investigations have shown where anything the Russians did influenced the outcome.......

And what solid concrete solutions to what issues? All I saw was her dancing around with the vote for me I deserve it for what I went through with my husband. And yeah if you call half the country deplorables it's not going to have a postive effect on your campaign and one of the examples of what a lousy candidate she was. Of course she has not been great at anything she has ever done riding her husband's coattails to her being coronated to a Senate seat because of it and payback by Obama to the SecState position where she was an utter failure.

 

1. She talked about things she'd do to improve the economy & create jobs. She talked about global warming & the challenges it posed for us all. She talked about ways to open more opportunities for women. She told West Virginian coal miners the truth (which they didn't want to face--and still don't). She said she'd fix Obamacare & try to expand it & its coverage. She had a lot better foreign policy toward our allies than Trump ever did.
2. Interesting post. Yes, Hillary said "deplorables" But only after months of Trump & his supporters doing far worse. What about "Lying Ted", "Little Marco", "Crooked Hillary", "Pocahontas" Warren, etc., on & on & on? What about "Lock her up!" being yelled at every rally & the convention itself? Why was that OK, while Hillary was unacceptable? Looking at the record from 2019, Trump & his followers were FAR WORSE than Hillary & hers. FAR WORSE!!!!!!
3. Hillary NEVER supported unfettered immigration. Nor did any other Democrat. All Democrats support LEGAL immigration as a powerful source of new blood, creativity & labor in the U.S. No democrats support illegal immigration. Any claim to the contrary was & is, a political lie. Hillary & the Democratic Party did support opening opportunities for transgender people, under the theory that all Americans are guaranteed the same human rights under the Constitution. We still do. No Democrat I'm aware of--including Hillary--supports unlimited abortion. Democrats support the Roe v Wade Supreme Court decision, which has been the standard of the nation for over 40 years. Republican claims to the contrary are again political lies. Trump, and not Hillary, went for the "extreme" positions. He's proven that since his election in many ways.
4. I agree with your point #4.

 

And you obviously cant read very well. All this stuff is pretty public record.

 

You agreed with me. Pay attention.

 

she underestimated the extent of Russian help Trump would receive

 

First, Hillary was ELECTED to the Senate by NY voters--NOT given the seat because of her husband's influence. Second, during the first two years of Hillary's Sec of State tenure, it was Republicans who were singing her praises even more than Democrats. It was only after she began publicly sharing her intent to run for President again that Republicans began ripping her apart. She was far from a failure either as Senator or as Sec of State. It's always easier to find fault than find things to praise, but Hillary did a descent job in all the political positions she held. Yes, she had her faults & her failures. But she's human, like you & me, & deserves the same consideration any of us deserve from those around us.

 

How odd. Even though I went only to public elementary and high schools, and afterward graduated with a Bach. of Science degree from a state-supported university, we were taught when quoting others to provide an adequate, identifying attribution. Maybe if I'd been the beneficiary of higher-class, more "liberal" educational venues, I, too might have made such assumptions as those that are evidently routine for you and your stratum of society....

Don't worry, though, about "dumbing it down" for me, Andy. The significance of it all would probably be wasted on me anyway....

."To be or not to be? I mean, like, you know, that depends on if the welfare check arrives on time!"

 

She lost touch with her blue collar base and was arrogant enough to believe she didn't need them. She did.

 

As much as I dislike him as well, your claim has no basis in reality.

 

Once again there was no "the popular vote". There was no national campaign, there was no national election, there was no national vote. Tallying up all the 51 separate and unique elections that did take place and declaring that a national popular vote in statistical and election folly.

Nope she was coronated. She even had to move there and then the other Democrats who were going to run were told to back off. And if was ONLY because he husband had been President else you wouldn't know who she was. What was her greatest accomplishment as Secretary of State? The reset button with Russian, let's be friends again? Benghazi and her failure there? Peace in the middle east? Diplomacy with NK? Iran? Turkey?

Her faults and failures were that she was currupt as they come and used the corruptness to gain personal wealth and political power.

 

The help which had no effect on the outcome?

How did the Russians change the outcome and what investigation said they did?

 

He must have had strategy. That's why he didn't have a single rally in California during the general election. He knew he couldn't take the majority there. Even if he was able to carve another million voters to himself, the Electoral votes would have gone to Clinton.

 

You mean like Trump is doing now?

 

She's the stupidest politician who ever lived. And she still won't go away.