Why did people vote for Trump?

I didn't misunderstand anything about his "promises", only the people he conned did. Most only heard and cheered the hate and couldn't care less about anything else.

 

"Unmanned" missiles??????????

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LMAO, well played

 

Would just love to hear why you were once a democrat, what policies you supported, and how you now think you'll find those things in the libertarian party.

 

From your innocuous replies one can assume you both agree with the OP. Neither one of you challenged anything in it. Silence implies consent.

 

I didn't vote for anyone for president though I was happy that Clinton was defeated.

I think many wanted to "blow things up" in Washington D.C. A guy they saw as a "disruptor".

 

Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Snowflake Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhh Snowflake

 

So, what you are saying is, it is okay for Trump to lie to his base because all other Presidents have lied to get elected. How cynical can you get.

That is false. I am not a novice when it comes to Presidential elections. Americans knew where their President stood on the issues in every election in recent memory, including the election of 2016. Is there a certain amount of exaggeration among candidates? Sure. A certain amount of omission of the facts? Sure.

But in every election, including the latest one, Americans knew exactly where the candidates stood. The media and debates helped to make positions clear. That is my very point.

Trump made his position very clear to his base, including you, I suspect. His base knew where he stood on the wall, tax reform, health care, jobs, and so on. That is why they voted for him. Is that statement wrong?

And on every key position mentioned in the OP, Trump lied to his base. And still they stay with him. If it were me, I would be ticked.

As a matter of fact, that happened. I voted for Bush in 2000. But he abandoned his "passionate conservative" principles and lied us into an illegal war with Iraq that cost nearly 5,000 dead Americans with a another 25,000 wounded. He lost my support because I don't like to be lied to, especially by my President.

But, apparently, Trump fans feel it is okay for their President to lie to them.

You even said so.

 

I'm going out on a limb here and say I bet you voted for Trump.

 

People like you are the reason Trump got elected.

 

And I'm going out on a limb and betting you voted for Cankles.

 

At least they were among the living.

 

First off technically, I have never been a democrat, but I have been willing to vote for democrats with no problem, up until recently. The democratic party has become something that I find reprehensible and tyrannical. Plus, I find the Libertarian parties platform and the libertarian political world view to fall in line with my own world view so I find them to be much more appealing for me.

 

Also, I have a question for people who voted for Clinton or who hate Trump, What do you think would have happened if Clinton would have won? I am serious, she is a corrupt politician who took money from Wall Street, she and some of her cronies in the DNC rigged the election during the primary so she could win, she is essentially in my opinion everything that is wrong with America in terms of our political system. So what about her makes her better than Trump. I mean to be fair, Trump had some problems also, but none as drastically devious as Clinton did.

 

That's a very dangerous mindset for the democrats to take. If the democrats want to lose in the mid-terms, keep on spouting how everyone who voted for Trump is a hater. There is overwhelming evidence that the left cries like babies when they don't get their way. There's evidence that they are trying to make white people feel guilty for being white.

There are haters in Trump's base, as there are haters in Clinton's base. Both teams get their crazies, their loonies and their haters, so that's a wash.

Trump is doing some okay things and some not okay things. The democrats need to get their **** together if they want to have a sliver of hope that they won't lose more seats next year.

You will not win any hearts nor any minds by pretending that half the voting block are evil, while the other half continues to do evil things as well. The democrats need to have a very serious self-reflection meeting. Hillary spent over a year telling us why Trump is bad without ever telling us why she was good. And, her being so corrupt and all, she believed Wasserman-Schultz when she was told that it was her turn. That sort of cockiness is what lost her the election. Trump didn't really have a chance running against anyone not named Clinton. The Clinton dynasty is over. Time to move on and figure out why you lost. Pretending that "they" are evil is a path to disaster and irrelevance.

 

You presume to assign an unfounded opinion based on nothing more than the fact that you are being disagreed with. What is being said is that the outrage over the dishonesty of Donald Trump is misplaced, as every president of the united states has exercised dishonesty. He is not the first, he will most certainly not be the last.

Do you wish to discuss the changing of positions demonstrated by Barack Obama after he became president of the united states, taking a drastically differing approach than what he spoke us when he was campaigning for office?

It is indeed factually incorrect.

Indeed such was not said. It was never stated that it was acceptable for Donald Trump to engage in intellectual dishonesty. Rather it was stated that his actions are no different than every other president of the untied states.

 

Which only means he was terribly wrong in the first place.

Challenging China was a mistake. He corrected his mistake.

Saying NATO was obsolete was a mistake. He corrected his mistake.

I noticed that was all you mentioned. There were at ten other key promises in the OP he made to his base, then changed his mind.

That is my point.

Trump wanted to "drain the swamp." His base like that. So, he called out China during the campaign. Made China a whipping boy. Then he turned on NATO. In addition to calling them obsolete, he said European nations were pikers and wouldn't pay their bills.

His base loved it. They adored him. They voted for him because of what he was saying about China, NATO, the wall, and their health insurance.

Now he has done a 180 on all of that. Instead of "draining the swamp" he is adopting Washington positions that have been true for years. In other words, the establishment position.

And his base still adores him, even after being lied to on nearly every important position he took during the campaign.

I just don't understand that.

They even love his schedule. He vacationed in south Florida beginning Thursday and lasting until Sunday evening. He was in the White House on Monday, hosting the traditional Easter roll. On Tuesday he went back on the 2020 campaign trail again, speaking in Kenosha, WI.

During the current crisis involving North Korea which he and his advisors encouraged with belligerent remarks. Trump even lied about the location of USS Carl Vinson carrier strike force. It was 3,000 miles from the Commander-in-Chief said it was.

What does his base say? He didn't really mean what he said.

 

Nothing?

 

Curious, this isn't about the Democrats and I am not a Democrat. Do you have any comments on my posts, including the OP?

 

Exactly how does this add to the conversation? This petty bickering and name calling is tearing the country apart.

 

I love being disagree with. It is why I am here. Then you paraphrased what I said.

 

And where did this start?

 

Trump's voters voted for him because the American system has failed a lot of people who just became desperate for change in a system that didn't work for them. Same basic reason that a lot of the Democrats were voting for Bernie. The American system has basically failed to provide an increasingly better life for a majority of the American people over about the last thirty five years and so in both parties people are looking for a change in the system.

We now know that Trump was basically a fraud who will actually continue or accelerate the diversion of the wealth of America to the extreme upper class. As America becomes more and more aware that they have once again been scammed dissatisfaction with the system will continue to increase making the eventual dissolution of the capitalist system inevitable.

 

I enjoyed your OP. (I enjoy much of what you write.) I dislike this president more than I disliked George W Bush. I didn't vote for him, but I didn't vote for her, either. I think you are asking the right questions, but we shouldn't accept "they hate and are evil," as a valid answer. You're literally calling millions of your fellow citizens haters when you say that. They don't appreciate that, mostly because it's not true.

The issue was Hillary Clinton herself. Her name is toxic in this country. She's not well-liked, she comes off as constantly in a bad mood, even when she's smiling and her baggage has it's own baggage. She is as corrupt as corrupt gets. She was promised a win by the D party, no matter what. Well, a whole bunch of Americans said, "no, it's not a birthright nor is it a because-my-husband-was, kind of gig." This had nothing to do with misogyny.

This election was about two choices - do we keep going along like this or should we try to change things up? Hillary, in no way, represented anything resembling change.

Now, why did they elect Trump? My premise is that Wasserman-Shultz was being far more sleazy than we ever learned about. I was watching the entire country say no to "stay the course." This should have been a Bernie v Trump election. I think the outcome is FAR different if Hillary hadn't had a temper tantrum about it being her turn.

I blame the Trump presidency 100% on the Democrats' corruption and failure to take the temperature of the country. They should have listened a bit and given Bernie a fair shot.

 

I don't understand the question. Perhaps you missed the point? Name calling is a 3rd grade tactic and Americans are letting the politicians divide us, when we should be working together to get rid of the stink that is DC. Calling each other names accomplishes exactly nothing except proving you can call people names. Wow. Big win.