Why did people vote for Trump?

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Recognizing that Obama faced a hostile House for six of the eight years he was in office, yes tell me what positions Obama lied about. Not things he couldn't accomplish because of Congress, things he lied about.

    "It is indeed factually incorrect." You are saying his base didn't know where he stood on the wall, China, NATO, health care, jobs, and tax reform? You must think his base is very stupid. I knew where he stood. His positions were ludicrous. That is why I voted against him. As you pointed out, he corrected his positions after the election and to hell with his base.

    "It was never stated that it was acceptable for Donald Trump to engage in intellectual dishonesty." Not exactly in those words, but that was what you said. You said it was perfectly okay for Trump to abandon his campaign promises "if he wants something else. It's that easy."

    Funny, I used what you said, then you backtracked on what you said. Are you any relation to Trump?:lol:
     
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    I want to thank you for your compliment, and I am in agreement with you. The Democrats, by nominating Clinton with all her baggage, are responsible for the Trump Presidency. The two candidates were so bad I nearly abandoned a 50-year tradition of voting in the Presidential election. Many did so. It is why Trump was elected and he is a minority President and he clearly does not have a mandate.

    That said, let's get back on topic. It is useless to talk about the election. Let's talk about our current President.
     
  3. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He has many accomplishments. The fact that you know nothing of them indicates TDS.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    And exactly which accomplishment has improved your life?
     
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    Again proof of TDS. ^^
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I don't know from people.But I can explain as to why Americans,
    and tax-payers and God-fearing Patriots voted for Trump.
    Because Obama's choreographed Malfeasance was just over-the top.
    Everything Obama and merry band of toadies touched they spoiled.
    Just look around at once nice neighborhoods.With boarded up business'
    and americans struggling and often jobless.Except for part time work.
    of course Washintonians or Obama's Political Aristocracy were just
    marvy.More Millionaires under Obama then ever in American history.
    95 Million americans jobless.More americans than ever claiming
    disability and Food stamps.Which was part of L.B.J.'s Great Society
    dream.To put as many americans on the Government dole as feasible.
    Make them dependent on Big Brother Government.
    They'll respond by voting en masse for those { Democrat Party }
    who implemented Big Brother.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't even think of one? Why are we not surprised!
     
  8. AFM

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    More TDS. Google the subject. You will be surprised.
     
  9. AFM

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    The D's ran on 8 more years of Obamanomics - 1% growth adjusted for inflation and population growth.

    Trump ran on 8 years of supply side economic policies - 3% growth adjusted for inflation and population growth and Neil Gorsuch.
     
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    Sitting out doesn't really count. Gallup had a poll which showed 25% of all Americans disliked both Trump and Clinton. They didn't want either one. Of those who voted, exit polls showed that 50% of those who voted for Trump did so because they were anti-Clinton. So of those who voted for Trump, 46% of the electorate, half, 23% voted for him because they wanted him to become president, 23% voted for him because they didn't want Hillary Clinton to become president. Not that they wanted Trump, they just wanted Clinton to lose.

    Another 6% voted third party to register their votes against both candidates. How many sat out of that original 25% who opposed both candidates, exit polls doesn't supply that answer. This last election was more about whom one didn't want to win as one whom one wanted to win.

    One has to remember that on election day both Trump and Clinton had unfavorable numbers above 60% and were viewed favorably by the electorate as a whole in the mid 30's. I suspect that any other Democrat other than Clinton would have beaten Trump by 10-15 points, possibly more. But those were the choices the Republicans and Democrats gave us.

    It was what it was. An election where the American people decided or voted for the least not wanted candidate.
     
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    Yeah. A race to the bottom.

    As brutal of a "lesser of 2 evils" election as the USA has ever experienced.
     
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    For many, sure. There are a lot of hard core trump supporters, and they won. At best, you're gonna have that lesser of two evils thing in any election.

    We got Gorsuch to replace Scalita, and that's not a bad thing. We got rid of TPP, we're in talks about getting rid of NAFTA, there's a ban on new federal employees, and the other things Trump was voted for are in the works. It's not easy, but compared to the Hillary alternative, Trump is doing damn good!

    Lots of people don't like that, but they don't count.
     
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    Yeah, you lie as well as trump
     
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    Just a few examples would include his pledge to close Gitmo, which never came about, despite the liberal democrat party holding the house and senate for a full two years, and a super majority that allowed them to do absolutely anything they wished. the promise that the united states would not be engaged in an endless war. His changing of position from opposing homosexual marriage, to instead supporting it. His support for ending the tax cuts that originated during the George Bush era, but instead extended them and allowed them to continue.

    Indeed not. What is being said is that your assumption pertaining to myself being a base member for Donald Trump is a factually incorrect position. He is merely being supported for the sake of having a discussion with someone who actively opposes not only himself, but his policies, and who is making vague generalities about a complicated topic.

    The exact quote is as follows:

    Without exception, every last president of the united states has demonstrated a ready willingness to engage in dishonesty of whatever measure is deemed necessary in order to be elected. They will say whatever is necessary in order to achieve that goal. Liberal or conservative, democrat or republican, it makes no difference. Donald Trump is not the first, nor will he be the last.

    Pray tell where exactly was it said that it was acceptable for Donald Trump to engage in intellectual dishonesty? Should we conduct a word-by-word dissection of the above quote, to try and determine precisely where such a statement was made? Or will you concede the fact that no such statement was actually made on the part of myself?
     
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    What is the Democratic Party's economic growth plan ??
     
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    I voted for Trump because
    Sanders was not a choice on the ballot
    and Hillary is a denizen of the swamp
    needing to be drained.

    To date I am not sorry I voted for Trump.
    Disappointed on his back tracking on promise to stop military interventions.
    Hillary is more of a Warist, no doubt and would have fired more missiles than Trump by now.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    More than a third of voters have sat it out ever since Reagan. About the same number either sat it out or voted against Hillary. Sorry dude like it or not no matter how large a majority you roll up in California you still only get 55 electoral votes.
     
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    Or it shows that he doesn't wear ideological blinders and is willing to make decisions on the best available information and Arguments. Many other presidents have operated in a similar Fashion. In fact ther was a book written about such a president not that long ago. If I remember correctly the Book was titled "Team of Rivals"...
     
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    Why did people vote for Trump?

    Because he wasn't Hillary.
     
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    The same progressive policies that built the greatest middle class the world's ever known in the last century prior the Reagan and republicans coming in and over the last 40 years successfully stripping them away, one by one.

    It's not like this stuff is a mystery. We have documented history, not just in it counties, but others. Anyone can see what works and what doesn't.
     
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    My old man said that he voted for Trump because he is a successful business man, despite some bumps along the way.
     
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    Bumps = 6 bankruptcies, personally losing a billion in a single year, so desperate he had to open a scam college to dupe desperate people out of their hard earned money, had to go on reality TV, eventually after being left with no business credibility with any American banks or daddy's connections having to go places like the Ukraine and Russian to borrow money (and likely got involved in money laundering scams), etc....

    lol, the only people who believe trump was a successful businessman or "real estate tycoon" are American rubes who think reality TV is real.

    The guy is a total fraud con man. And a really bad one at that.
     
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    How America Killed Its Middle Class

    http://www.alternet.org/thom-hartmann-how-america-killed-its-middle-class
     
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    Analogy - "I'm hungry, that bread is perfectly edible and nutritious, but it's kind of old and stale and I'm sick of stale bread. Hmmmmm. You know what, I think I'll have the decomposing rotten egg that's been sitting out in the summer sun for a week. Yeah, it's time for a change!"
     
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    People wanted change. Decades of failed leaders and for what....our nation has become weak, impoverished, and we've lost our pride. I voted for Trump because he wasn't a politician and he represented a lot of things that politicians kept promising but never delivered on. So far the man has delivered and I couldn't be happier.
     

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